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re: Official Wii U first day thread

Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by taylork37
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:50 pm to
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So, you think Nintendo is not serious about their new controller that costs almost as much as the console itself to manufacture?


It has nothing to do with the seriousness of the developing company. MS is extremely serious about Kinect and I would qualify Kinect as the ultimate gimmick.

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Define "real" value. If anything, this has much more intrinsic and practical value than anything microsoft and sony have come up with in a decade.


If you said the Wii controller maybe, but the Wii U game pad no.

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You mean like slightly better graphics?
Bingo.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:54 pm to
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Would you call the latest iteration of a particular smartphone a gimmick?


Unless you are upgrading from a flip phone than you could definitely make the argument that most cell phones from version to version are just added gimmicks.

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How about the latest version of an ipad? Would you call that a gimmick?


Absolutely.



Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:54 pm to
So, you are admitting that the next line of consoles from Sony and Microsoft will be gimmicks because all they will do is enhance the graphic capabilities?
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15327 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:59 pm to
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So, you are admitting that the next line of consoles from Sony and Microsoft will be gimmicks because all they will do is enhance the graphic capabilities?


If that was the only upgrade and if you qualify a significant increase in graphics from one console to the next a gimmick then sure.

At this point it would just be an argument over what you think is or isn't gimmicky.

This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 1:01 pm
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:07 pm to
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At this point it would just be an argument over what you think is or isn't gimmicky


Yes, and since changing the way games are played is somehow gimmicky to you, there really can't be any improvements to any system that wouldn't just be a gimmick.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15327 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:14 pm to
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Yes, and since changing the way games are played is somehow gimmicky to you, there really can't be any improvements to any system that wouldn't just be a gimmick.


Arguing with you is like arguing with my wife.

I say I don't like a specific change or addition of something somehow means to her I hate change or any improvement whatsoever.

Somehow you are confusing what I said with a random argument that all changes in games are gimmicky. Therefore I hate all changes.

This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 1:16 pm
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:18 pm to
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Somehow you are confusing what I said with a random argument that all changes in games are gimmicky


If you call the WiiU tablet a gimmick, then you either don't appreciate the actual meaning of the word or all changes to games are gimmicky.

It's not my fault you are too stupid to understand simple words.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15327 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:31 pm to
First off when I said "Bingo" to your question:

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You mean like slightly better graphics?


I was reffering to the Wii U's slightly better graphics than current gen consoles, not the significantly better graphics you see in new gen consoles. I think this is where we got separated.

this should make my next comment that a significant increase in graphics from one gen to the next doesn't qualify as a gimmick, make more sense.

Therefore, the Wii U tablet at his point is still a gimmick by the definition I gave and not all changes are gimmicky.







This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 1:32 pm
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:57 pm to
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I was reffering to the Wii U's slightly better graphics than current gen consoles,




So, better graphics from Sony, Microsoft = awesome while better graphics from Nintendo is gimmicky.

Fan boys like you are just plain stupid.

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definition I gave


Which you clearly don't understand.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24849 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:01 pm to
I already buy way too many games for the amount of time I get to play them. Adding a new system will not help.
Posted by trillhog
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:13 pm to
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A gimmick is apple putting the headphone jack on the bottom instead of the top.


how is that a gimmick?
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15327 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:18 pm to
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So, better graphics from Sony, Microsoft = awesome while better graphics from Nintendo is gimmicky.


Holy shite. Are you that clueless? The Wii U is basically matching the graphics of the current Gen consoles. You know....those machines that are 6+ years old and are about to get replaced.


So your statement....
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So, better graphics from Sony, Microsoft = awesome while better graphics from Nintendo is gimmicky.
doesn't even apply. Good work though. I love that you call me a fanboy because you don't even know anything about the console.

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definition I gave



Which you clearly don't understand.


I would argue its you who doesn't understand my definition, or understand that the Wii gamepad is exactly that.

Let me post it for you again:

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something which is not serious or of real value that is used to attract people's attention or interest temporarily, especially to make them buy something
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 3:21 pm
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15327 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:20 pm to
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A gimmick is apple putting the headphone jack on the bottom instead of the top.


I didn't even see him post that.

You really need to check your definition of the word if you think this qualifies.

Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:25 pm to
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The Wii U is basically matching the graphics of the current Gen consoles.


That the original Wii was far short of. Nintendo greatly enhanced its own graphic capabilities. This doesn't really add anything to game play, but neither does the increased graphics from the other consoles.

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I love that you call me a fanboy because you don't even know anything about the console.


I don't even know what the frick you are talking about now.

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or understand that the Wii gamepad is exactly that.


It's a completely different way of playing games, especially multiplayer.


You admitted to hating Nintendo, so it begs the question: Is there any more clear moment possible that tells you your life is completely meaningless than hating a particular game company? I don't think so.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:29 pm to
The Wii U will suffer down the line with third party developers again. If the leaked Durango specs are accurate then the computing power included in next-gen consoles will result in similar disparity the Wii faced (which might mean a ridiculous sales lead, who knows)
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15327 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:46 pm to
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You admitted to hating Nintendo, so it begs the question: Is there any more clear moment possible that tells you your life is completely meaningless than hating a particular game company? I don't think so.




I admitted being biased against them. How the hell does being biased against Nintendo and their products turn into raging hate worthy of my life being called meaningless? So i would just assume you are not biased against anything? Because if you were by your definition your life is basically meaningless.

Sounds like you just ran out of worthless shite to say so you try and insult me? Good one.

Whats even funnier, is that you are calling my life meaningless on an internet message board thread arguing over a video game console. Take a step back before throwing out the "life is meaningless" insult brochacho.

Man this is getting childish.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 3:48 pm
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:53 pm to
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How the hell does being biased against Nintendo and their products turn into raging hate worthy of my life being called meaningless?


Take a quick glance at your posts in this thread...you real mad.

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is that you are calling my life meaningless on an internet message board thread arguing over a video game console.


You are really the only one arguing. I just wanted info from people that have played it. You turned this into a bash Nintendo thread because you suck at life.

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Man this is getting childish.


It got childish when you jumped in with your nonsense. "A gamepad is just big gimmick"
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 3:56 pm to
You got nowhere with your insults. I think the game pad is a gimmick insofar as it relies on developers tying game aspects to it instead of improving game play. Doesn't mean it won't sell though, thought the same thing about the Wii motion controls (and kinect/move)
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15327 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:11 pm to
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Take a quick glance at your posts in this thread...you real mad.


You are trying to insult me? Who's really mad?

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You are really the only one arguing. I just wanted info from people that have played it. You turned this into a bash Nintendo thread because you suck at life.


Alright man, I have just been talking to myself the last 30 posts.

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It got childish when you jumped in with your nonsense. "A gamepad is just big gimmick"
Just calling a spade a spade.


ETA:

like SBR said and like I even said earlier, a developer might really be able to do something cool with the gamepad. Right now it is just a selling point that has no real sustenance behind it. Also known as a gimmick.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 4:13 pm
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 11/19/12 at 4:15 pm to
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Right now it is just a selling point that has no real sustenance behind it.


Holy shite, you might be slightly retarded.
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