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re: LSU baseball update from Coaches Committee meeting Tuesday night

Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by memphstigers23
Fenway Pahk
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:13 pm to
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Coach Will Davis has told me in private that Javi Sanchez is regarded as one of the best recruiters in college baseball. It's the main reason LSU's recruiting classes are usually in the top 10 each year.


Posted by AstroTiger
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:16 pm to
93 days!

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:19 pm to
a monkey could recruit LSU. that's a cop out.
Posted by memphstigers23
Fenway Pahk
Member since Mar 2012
10278 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:22 pm to
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a monkey could recruit LSU. that's a cop out.


That's what I'm saying, lots of recruits find him awkward. LSU recruits itself for baseball
Posted by 32 Deuce
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:29 pm to
I'm hearing that 3-4 players won't be with the team in the spring.

Very impressed with the new guys they brought in this year.

Lineup should look like this:

C-Ross
3rd- Ibarra
SS - Bregman
2nd - Katz/Jones
1st/DH - Moore/Edward/Katz
LF - Rhymes
CF - Laird
RF - Sciambra / McMullen

Laird and Bregman have stood out the most for the newcomers. McMullen and Stevenson have both had good showings also.

Pitching seems to be in good shape as well lots of depth.

Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
18636 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:30 pm to
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2nd - Katz/


and people called me crazy
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126960 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:37 pm to
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a monkey could recruit LSU.

So you've done it???
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126960 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:45 pm to
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That's what I'm saying, lots of recruits find him awkward.
In college baseball you don't recruit players first. You recruit the players' coaches. At least, that is how Will Davis explained it to me last night.

He said Sanchez has a network of coaches, both high school and JC coaches, who tell him who he needs to go see, even for players who don't play for that coach. He gave me several specific examples in the recruiting class described last night.

Anybody on here who thinks a typical player in Florida grows up wanting to play in Louisiana, well, you're just not living in the real world.

But I'm sure posters on this board know more about recruiting than the LSU coaches do.
Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
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Posted on 11/14/12 at 4:58 pm to
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LSURussian
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:22 pm to
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He said Sanchez has a network of coaches, both high school and JC coaches, who tell him who he needs to go see, even for players who don't play for that coach. He gave me several specific examples in the recruiting class described last night.


Sanchez is the only coach in the nation with connections!!!
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:24 pm to
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C-Ross
3rd- Ibarra
SS - Bregman
2nd - Katz/Jones
1st/DH - Moore/Edward/Katz
LF - Rhymes
CF - Laird
RF - Sciambra / McMullen



So they would bench Jones possibly? Hard to believe that
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70095 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:25 pm to
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Sanchez is the only coach in the nation with connections!!!




Celebrating that is like the old Chris Rock joke about celebrating not being in prison. Congrats on him doing his job (at least in that regard).
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18938 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:27 pm to
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One thing I've noticed and maybe ya'll could chime in is our overall team size has been down the last 2-3 years. You look at our roster and we have 2-3 position players that are 200 lbs.+ You look at Florida's roster and they have 11-12 200+ position players. Is this recruiting philosophy, weight program, what? I want 220 lb. 1st and 3rd basemen. I would like to avoid 2-3 everyday players weighing in at 170 lbs. and barely 5'7".


It's just the way things play out on a year to year basis. Look at the teams Smoke had...BIG guys who could smash but hardly ANY speed. Since Mainieri he has been with LSU he has always first looked for the all-around athlete over a 1-2 tool player. What this does is allows him to move people around in the field if necessary while not losing anything defensively.

We should also take a look at the new bats and how college baseball has slowly transformed from the HR derby's of the 90's to the small ball feel we have today. Granted we'll still see big bashers make their way into the SEC and hit for power but the trend is shifting to more athletic players who can do more things as whole...(whether that be speed, glove, etc...) Florida's had their luck with the draft while LSU has seen their share of misfortune in those respects. Deep pitching staffs and line drive hitters are what's winning championships these days. Don't believe me? Take a look at Arizona
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:29 pm to
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It's just the way things play out on a year to year basis. Look at the teams Smoke had...BIG guys who could smash but hardly ANY speed. Since Mainieri he has been with LSU he has always first looked for the all-around athlete over a 1-2 tool player. What this does is allows him to move people around in the field if necessary while not losing anything defensively.



To add to this people need to keep in mind the roster was cut from 38 to 35 a few years back so this put more emphasis on guys who could play more than 1 position in the field.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126960 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:38 pm to
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Sanchez is the only coach in the nation with connections!!!
I don't agree. I'm pretty sure other coaches have connections, too.

Davis says Sanchez is just better at it than most other recruiters.

I have no reason to doubt Davis.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 5:59 pm to
Will Davis is like 25 and has been coaching like 2 years.

Im sure he knows how much better Javi is than other recruiters.


Seriously, what do you expect him to say?

And what other coaches do you think he has been around to compare Javi to?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126960 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 7:07 pm to
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Will Davis is like 25 and has been coaching like 2 years

He's 28 and this coming season will be his sixth season as an assistant coach at LSU.

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And what other coaches do you think he has been around to compare Javi to?

His dad was head baseball coach at La. Tech after serving as an assistant coach at South Carolina and an assistant coach at LSU. It's safe to assume his dad shared some recruiting insights with his baseball playing son but maybe not.

He also worked with David Grewe when Grewe was the recruiting coordinator at LSU. He said some things last night comparing Sanchez's recruiting methods very favorably to Grewe's methods.

And, of course, Davis was himself recruited by LSU during the Laval years when he played for Lee High School in Baton Rouge.

So, I'd say he's had some pretty good exposure to various recruiting methods and results.

quote:

Seriously, what do you expect him to say?

He didn't have to say anything. I walked up to him after the meeting and thanked him for the recruit information. I said something like "It looks like another good recruiting class." He then deflected credit to Sanchez. It was just the two of us standing there. He could have just said thanks and let it go. But he went out of his way to explain how Sanchez has developed rapport with a network of HS and JC coaches across the country. He said it's to the point where coaches call Sanchez when their team plays against a good player who they think LSU should look at.

But I'm sure you're right, Davis doesn't know anything about the recruiting process or methods.

I just wish you were the LSU recruiting coordinator. Then I KNOW we'd have some good baseball players at LSU.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 7:20 pm to
Yes, because I said I'd be a better recruiter than Javi.

frick you're delusional

I don't care who he's talked to. He's still too young & inexperienced to quantify that.

Do you think LSU could do better than Javi?

I do.
Posted by crownroyaltiger
The Good Ole L.P.
Member since Jan 2005
312 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 7:24 pm to
Javi's recruiting prowess is well known in the travel/ high school ball circuit. Many let their views of his coaching ability cloud their judgement on this.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278171 posts
Posted on 11/14/12 at 7:32 pm to
There are guys that are good at both coaching & recruiting. Why settle? Not really sure
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