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Can someone explain why SOS "Strength of Schedule" is not considered more?

Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:41 pm
LSU has played 6 ranked teams (5 in a row!) so far this year, defeating 4 of the 6 whose opponents who have a combined higher winning percentage at 78% than the three undefeated teams opponents mentioned as the likely NCG teams in Miami. LSU's opponents have a low total average opponent ranking of #12.6 BCS ranking????
Let's see Kansas State has played only 4 ranked teams with a 67% winning percentage and average ranking 11.7
Oregon has only played 3 ranked teams with a combined winning percentage of 63%, and average ranking of #20. Yes, AZ #22, Wash #23, and USC #17, and NOBODY in the top 15! ???
Notre Dame's not too shabby playing 4 ranked teams with combined winning percentage of 69% and average ranking of 13.25. Best resume of the top 3 undefeated in my opinion.

So why is nobody talking about this, and only the W's and L's??

The Fightin Tigers of LSU have played #23 Washington winning 41-3, lost to #9/10 Florida, defeated #3 South Carolina with a healthy Marcus Lattimore, Defeated "Johnny Football" and Texas A&M # 18, lost to #1 Bama, Defeated #22 Mississippi State. NOBODY in the country has run this gauntlet of a schedule, and if the big three undefeated teams had played this schedule they would NOT be undefeated either.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:43 pm to
we lost twice.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:43 pm to
Why do you think Urban went to Ohio

why does Bama always play a weaker schedule than LSU

Notre Dame Texas Oregon

Posted by bastropbham
Birmingham, Al
Member since Nov 2008
604 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:44 pm to
I don't get it either. Where's LSUMatt?
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:44 pm to
because Hawaii losing to Idaho, or something like that, knocked USC out of the 2003 BCS game and put Oklahoma in. In essence it's still built into the computers and is somewhat within the thinking of the voters. It's just not a full component in the BCS like it used to be.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59132 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain why SOS "Strength of Schedule" is not considered more?

more than what? Wins and loses? Should 6-6 A&M been in the top 10 last year with their schedule? SOS is factored in, that's why LSU, A&M and USCe who all have 2 loses are ranked ahead of 1 loss FSU and Clemson. Its why Louisville was barely in the top 10 despite being undefeated last week.

Where were you last year when Alabama beat a grand total of 3 FBS teams with a winning record? While OSU beat a twice as many? Sorry but when you lose, twice, you lose control of your destiny.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 9:58 pm to
SOS is not politically correct. SOS is biased against schools that play in weak conferences. It's not their fault they don't pay in the SEC.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 10:08 pm to
You don't get special extra credit for going .500 against the BCS Top 10.

But just like Bama...ranked #4 as a 1-loss and .500 against the BCS Top 10...and LSU ranked #7 as a two-loss...you do get extra credit...as both are the highest ranked teams with their respective records.

But no, you don't get to rise above teams with 1-loss or are undefeated...that's then basically rewarding teams for playing a tough schedule regardless if they actually win or not. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Posted by whiteside
Houston,TX
Member since Oct 2009
714 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:18 pm to
I wonder the same thing.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 11/12/12 at 11:30 pm to
We lost 2 times and had a garbage out of conference schedule.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 6:59 am to
LSU has lost 2 times. Three other teams have zero losses. 1 team that beat you has only one loss. So what's the question?
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8184 posts
Posted on 11/13/12 at 8:57 am to
quote:

defeating 4 of the 6


Well, there's the first problem. LSU lost 2 of these games. You don't get a boost in the rankings for losing to good teams. See Mississippi State's fall from the rankings. According to your logic, Moo State played Bama, A&M and LSU in a row, so they should be given credit for that in their rankings. Unfortunately, they LOST these games. Going 0-3 against a tough schedule is not better than going 3-0 against a weak schedule, no matter how you slice it.

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So why is nobody talking about this, and only the W's and L's??


Well, this isn't happening. Let's look at a few cases.

Alabama: 9-1
Florida State: 9-1
Clemson: 9-1

What? They all have the same record? What separates them, then?

Alabama: 9-1, #4/4/4 in Coaches/Harris/BCS and #5 in the computers.
Florida State: 9-1, #6/6/10 and #17 in the computers.
Clemson: 9-1, #9/9/11 and #14 in the computers.

It's not just about W's and L's, dude. The reason LSU is the top-ranked 2-loss team is because of their perceived SOS and their high computer ranking (#7). If LSU is 10-0 right now, they are easily a unanimous #1 in all polls. Easily. But, they lost games. And that matters, no matter what your SOS is.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:23 am to
socialism. plus the country is tired of the SEC winning all the time and they want non SEC teams to win more no matter how they do it. the future of SEC dominance is in question even if we are the best because of scheduling. just look at our own conference where florida and lsu had tougher schedules than bama and georgia. one game can make a differnce.
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