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Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:09 am
Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:09 am
A lot of you (mostly those with "LSU" after your name) are looking at last night's victory in a negative light, and for that, I must question your football knowledge, or common sense in general.
The Defense gave up 477 yards. Yes, they did. They also gave up just 13 points. The game isn't won by how many yards you rack up, yardage is an overrated stat. Our defense prevented the Eagles to turn those yards into points, and THAT is a very valid point.
But the Eagles o-line sucks. Yes, the do, and our defense took full advantage of it. I think it would have been disturbing to see the defense struggle to get pressure on Vick knowing their o-line sucks. Vick had only been sacked 7 times one other time in his career, and that was when he was with the Falcons.
"7 sacks by the Saints defense is like 14 with a regular defense". frick you Steve Young. No other team has sacked Vick 7 times this season, even the Championship Giants.
If you choose to look at last night's win in a negative point of view, by all means, it's your right, but you're missing the much larger picture. The defense is improving, and I believe the Saints are beginning to hit their stride. They're not oblivious, they know they have a mountain to climb, but they are not out of contention yet, they have not given up, and get the Falcons on Sunday.
WHO DAT?!
The Defense gave up 477 yards. Yes, they did. They also gave up just 13 points. The game isn't won by how many yards you rack up, yardage is an overrated stat. Our defense prevented the Eagles to turn those yards into points, and THAT is a very valid point.
But the Eagles o-line sucks. Yes, the do, and our defense took full advantage of it. I think it would have been disturbing to see the defense struggle to get pressure on Vick knowing their o-line sucks. Vick had only been sacked 7 times one other time in his career, and that was when he was with the Falcons.
"7 sacks by the Saints defense is like 14 with a regular defense". frick you Steve Young. No other team has sacked Vick 7 times this season, even the Championship Giants.
If you choose to look at last night's win in a negative point of view, by all means, it's your right, but you're missing the much larger picture. The defense is improving, and I believe the Saints are beginning to hit their stride. They're not oblivious, they know they have a mountain to climb, but they are not out of contention yet, they have not given up, and get the Falcons on Sunday.
WHO DAT?!
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:14 am to Lafayette VooDoo
Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:14 am to Lafayette VooDoo
Praise Jesus
Not sure how you can be anything but happy after seeing that defensive performance an the return of the run game
Not sure how you can be anything but happy after seeing that defensive performance an the return of the run game
Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:17 am to Lafayette VooDoo
The Eagles prevented themselves from getting points, just like they have all season.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:28 am to Lafayette VooDoo
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(mostly those with "LSU" after your name)
Wow, stereotype much? Why not just say nah nah boo boo?
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But the Eagles o-line sucks.
This year our defense has struggled against even bad offenses. So winning one we are supposed to is encouraging. We shouldn't get too excited too fast though. The Eagles are basically a dumpster fire on both sides of the ball. I honestly felt really horrible for their coach during the game.
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they have not given up, and get the Falcons on Sunday
This game will tell us much more. I'm looking forward to it and hope our defense looks just as good against them. We've still got the 49ers, Giants on the road, and Falcons twice.
If we happen to get Payton back that'd help too. I really hope this is the start of an epic winning streak.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:29 am to Lafayette VooDoo
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A lot of you (mostly those with "LSU" after your name)
Annnnd here's where I quit reading.
Anyone that actually thinks one fanbase differs from another in any tangible way is an idiot. Every fanbase has their sunshine pumpers and debbie downers, you notice the ones you want to notice.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:32 am to Lafayette VooDoo
don't think we should foster any judgement of posters by their team support designation- even though sometimes such does seem to occur. This happens far more on game day than any other time.
A characteristic of posters on whole that I do find more common with fans who are more college based than pro is sort of a shizophrenic reaction. That is, with a win there is euphoria and talk of playoffs. With a loss it becomes needing to clean house and get rid of people.
My perspective is that a NCAA season is like hurdles- one slip or trip and you are usually out of it. The NFL is like a marathon- pacesetters can win it all but the champ comes from back in the pack at the finish just as often. The Saints-Colts SB was the first time two #1 seeds were in the SB in over a decade. NYG last year losing to the Saints 24-49 in the midst of a 4 game losing streak were the perfect example of the axiom "just get into the dance".
A characteristic of posters on whole that I do find more common with fans who are more college based than pro is sort of a shizophrenic reaction. That is, with a win there is euphoria and talk of playoffs. With a loss it becomes needing to clean house and get rid of people.
My perspective is that a NCAA season is like hurdles- one slip or trip and you are usually out of it. The NFL is like a marathon- pacesetters can win it all but the champ comes from back in the pack at the finish just as often. The Saints-Colts SB was the first time two #1 seeds were in the SB in over a decade. NYG last year losing to the Saints 24-49 in the midst of a 4 game losing streak were the perfect example of the axiom "just get into the dance".
Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:36 am to Lafayette VooDoo
The thing with giving up so many yards is that you give people opportunities to score. I believe Philly was 0-5 in the red zone. Even a 2-5 and it could have been a totally different ball game. Both teams had two turnovers. If they are going to give up that many yards they at least need to win the turnover battle.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 9:43 am to Lafayette VooDoo
Why do I have to look at it in a positive or negative light? Can't I just take it for what it was? Our defense has been horrendous all season. We played a really bad team and played well which I'm glad we did.
I hate how everyone overreacts (good and bad) based on one game. Last week we needed to fire our DC and cut all our players. This week we'be turned the corner and are only 2 games (and 6 teams worth) out of the playoffs and eventual Super Bowl run even though we are 3-5.
Perspective people! Keep it all in perspective.
I hate how everyone overreacts (good and bad) based on one game. Last week we needed to fire our DC and cut all our players. This week we'be turned the corner and are only 2 games (and 6 teams worth) out of the playoffs and eventual Super Bowl run even though we are 3-5.
Perspective people! Keep it all in perspective.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 10:31 am to Lafayette VooDoo
A win is a win
but Im not sure I've ever seen a team more dysfunctional that the Eagles last night
so again, WIN IS GREAT
but the Saints got pushed around alot and that doe not bode well for a "run" that we may all be holding out for, even in the deepest depth of our soul that we won't admit
always great to win but man Philly is horrid
but Im not sure I've ever seen a team more dysfunctional that the Eagles last night
so again, WIN IS GREAT
but the Saints got pushed around alot and that doe not bode well for a "run" that we may all be holding out for, even in the deepest depth of our soul that we won't admit
always great to win but man Philly is horrid
Posted on 11/6/12 at 10:33 am to Lafayette VooDoo
quote:
A lot of you (mostly those with "LSU" after your name) are looking at last night's victory in a negative light, and for that, I must question your football knowledge, or common sense in general. The Defense gave up 477 yards. Yes, they did. They also gave up just 13 points. The game isn't won by how many yards you rack up, yardage is an overrated stat. Our defense prevented the Eagles to turn those yards into points, and THAT is a very valid point. But the Eagles o-line sucks. Yes, the do, and our defense took full advantage of it. I think it would have been disturbing to see the defense struggle to get pressure on Vick knowing their o-line sucks. Vick had only been sacked 7 times one other time in his career, and that was when he was with the Falcons. "7 sacks by the Saints defense is like 14 with a regular defense". frick you Steve Young. No other team has sacked Vick 7 times this season, even the Championship Giants. If you choose to look at last night's win in a negative point of view, by all means, it's your right, but you're missing the much larger picture. The defense is improving, and I believe the Saints are beginning to hit their stride. They're not oblivious, they know they have a mountain to climb, but they are not out of contention yet, they have not given up, and get the Falcons on Sunday. WHO DAT?!
The only relevant question is how you think this defense is going to perform moving forward.
And if you think that this defense has turned the corner than I'm going to have to disagree. We were fortunate to be playing a team that had an OL that is basically worse than our historically bad defense.
It was the best defensive performance of the year. I just don't think it is indicative of how many points we will give up moving forward unfortunately.
Our wins are going to have to come from our offense going from very good to great.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 6:24 am to Lafayette VooDoo
Yea I also believe that the defense did improve monday night. The defense seemed to dig in once the offense entered the redzone. Anyone expecting the Defense to automatically start stiffling offenses is delusional.
It will take time to really fix the defense, and will only happen once some of the personnell changes.
I was much more pleased with the defense last night than in previous weeks, but I'm not naive either. They will have another bad game before the end of the season.
Overall: very pleased with the win, and I feel better about Spags
It will take time to really fix the defense, and will only happen once some of the personnell changes.
I was much more pleased with the defense last night than in previous weeks, but I'm not naive either. They will have another bad game before the end of the season.
Overall: very pleased with the win, and I feel better about Spags
Posted on 11/7/12 at 7:42 am to Lafayette VooDoo
Good try but the Defense is still chicken shite 
Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:33 am to Lafayette VooDoo
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The Defense gave up 477 yards. Yes, they did. They also gave up just 13 points. The game isn't won by how many yards you rack up, yardage is an overrated stat. Our defense prevented the Eagles to turn those yards into points, and THAT is a very valid point.
We have made some very impressive goalline stands. And some great TD saving plays (nod to Jenkins).
Spags D is improving. Yes, the eagles are terrible and the Oline is tissue paper, but i think we handle the Falcons next week and we see steady improvement the rest of the season.
We looked hungry for the first time all season on Monday night.
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