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re: How did Manziel Look Against Gators?

Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1148 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:40 pm to
The 4.4 was a hand time. More in the range of a high 4.5 but 40 times are irrelevant if you don't run it with pads on. Some people run as fast with pads than without and other's don't.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11652 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:41 pm to
I'm eager to see what kinda puss filled shite falls from abscess on top of his neck and onto his keyboard as well.
Posted by AgManz04
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
21 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:47 pm to
apparently Cam Newton is the greatest QB to ever play the game in the history of football. Vince Young was a pretty good college football player too, they come and go. but as i said before, i was just countering the dudes comment about Cam and JFF with a statistical breakdown. do they teach how to read comprehensively at LSU?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29696 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:47 pm to
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He's grown since then

Has he? Or maybe the teams you've played have had horrendous defenses. Probably somewhere in the middle. He's good, but this Saturday his ego (and all Aggie fans) will have their JFF hard-on bent all the way down.
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 11:49 pm
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31037 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:50 pm to
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apparently Cam Newton is the greatest QB to ever play the game in the history of football. Vince Young was a pretty good college football player too, they come and go. but as i said before, i was just countering the dudes comment about Cam and JFF with a statistical breakdown. do they teach how to read comprehensively at LSU?



Exactly what I expected. Dance around the questions asked.

Like I said, we're talking to somebody with some serious "brains" here.

Did you find a common denominator with 5 of the 6 teams JM has faced yet? Or are you still googling it?
This post was edited on 10/15/12 at 11:51 pm
Posted by AgManz04
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
21 posts
Posted on 10/15/12 at 11:55 pm to
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Exactly what I expected. Dance around the questions asked. Like I said, we're talking to somebody with some serious "brains" here. Did you find a common denominator with 5 of the 6 teams JM has faced yet? Or are you still googling it?


You are a dumbass, how the frick is there a common denominator between a set of teams that played a full season compared to a set of team that have only played half a season. 4 of the 6 Cam played against had losing records
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31037 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:00 am to
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You are a dumbass




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how the frick is there a common denominator between a set of teams that played a full season compared to a set of team that have only played half a season. 4 of the 6 Cam played against had losing records



Where did I mention Cam in any of that? Care to read what I posted again? Here you go:

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Did you find a common denominator with 5 of the 6 teams JM has faced yet?


In other words, out of the 6 teams that TEXAS A&M have played thus far, 5 of them have something in common. Any idea?

And you call me the dumbass.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11652 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:02 am to
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apparently Cam Newton is the greatest QB to ever play the game in the history of football
He very well may be one of the most physically gifted ever. I think that's a pretty fair assumption.

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Vince Young was a pretty good college football player too,
So you think Vince Young could have brought THAT Auburn team to the NC?

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i was just countering the dudes comment about Cam and JFF with a statistical breakdown
Your statistics are shite without a point of reference. How about statistical data about oponents faced? Or perhaps data about the talent of supporting players?
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how to read comprehensively
You have responded to NONE of the questions poised to you directly. That's either a severe lack of reading comprehension, OR it is deliberate ignorance. Either way you and you faux statistical "breakdowns" have exhausted my patience and my interest.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262007 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:04 am to
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You are a dumbass, how the frick is there a common denominator between a set of teams that played a full season compared to a set of team that have only played half a season. 4 of the 6 Cam played against had losing records


Cam was at his best in big games. Will see how your guy does this Saturday.

Great thing about message boards and being a visitor, when you are wrong, you can easily just disappear and not come back.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:07 am to
you still haven't answered why JM played so shitty against Ole Miss 2 weeks ago


and I've asked this question three times now.
Posted by CalTiger
California
Member since Jan 2004
3997 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:09 am to
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Cam was at his best in big games. Will see how your guy does this Saturday.

Great thing about message boards and being a visitor, when you are wrong, you can easily just disappear and not come back.




This is a great thread - I really can't believe that we are discussing how Manziel is equivalent (or perhaps greater as per aggies) than Cam Newton in college
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262007 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:15 am to
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This is a great thread - I really can't believe that we are discussing how Manziel is equivalent (or perhaps greater as per aggies) than Cam Newton in college



I'll give the Aggie the benefit of the doubt, since his team was in the reinvented Southworst conference at the time and he probably never watched Cam play.
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:16 am to
DEBATE DEBATE DEBATE!
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:18 am to
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This is a great thread - I really can't believe that we are discussing how Manziel is equivalent (or perhaps greater as per aggies) than Cam Newton in college

As far as I am concerned Cam and Tebow are the best college QB's ever, and for different reasons. Both were big game players. Cam had speed agility and a great arm, Tebow had Heart, ran like a full back and was probably the best leader on a college football team ever. Jiz Jar Johnny (J3) hasn't sniffed a SEC "Big Game" yet, and until his facial hair starts coming in no one should consider him a leader.
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:53 am to
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LSU 12
Auburn 10

Auburn is 1-5. Small sample sizes can make anyone look bad.


You are arguing the profiency of this great aTm offensive player versus LSU's suspect (in your mind) defense and you cite a 12-10 score? And your team just finished a 59-57 game? Interesting argument.

Over the last feww years we are used to boastful fans coming to this site boasting about their great football teams and great football players. Those include Oregon, Alabama, Florida, Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio State, aTm (the last 2 times) and only a few have been correct (Bama, Fla). Only a few return to eat crow. Generally the most boastful (like you) are never heard from again.. In other words, we've seen your type many times before. Then the reality of competing up in class blows up in their face.

At this point aTm is the lowest rated SEC team LSU has faced this year. Check out the team stats of the other higher ranked team and compare to what you claim Johnny Footbsll will put up on this defense. The only QB's that I remember putting up the type numbers you claim against an LSU defense were Cam Newton, Tim Tebow and Smith at West VA, all Heisman winners or this year's front runner.
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 12:56 am to
quote:

You are arguing the profiency of this great aTm offensive player versus LSU's suspect (in your mind) defense and you cite a 12-10 score? And your team just finished a 59-57 game? Interesting argument. Over the last feww years we are used to boastful fans coming to this site boasting about their great football teams and great football players. Those include Oregon, Alabama, Florida, Notre Dame, Miami, Ohio State, aTm (the last 2 times) and only a few have been correct (Bama, Fla). Only a few return to eat crow. Generally the most boastful (like you) are never heard from again.. In other words, we've seen your type many times before. Then the reality of competing up in class blows up in their face. At this point aTm is the lowest rated SEC team LSU has faced this year. Check out the team stats of the other higher ranked team and compare to what you claim Johnny Footbsll will put up on this defense. The only QB's that I remember putting up the type numbers you claim against an LSU defense were Cam Newton, Tim Tebow and Smith at West VA, all Heisman winners or this year's front runner.


Posted by Big Lake
Member since Jul 2011
3844 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:09 am to
I love this bullshite it happens every year and it just makes victory that much sweeter

A&M in 2010, Oregon in 2011, WVU in 2011, Arky in 2011, USCe in 2012. frick even UW was spouting bullshite about Keith Price.

This isnt the Big 12 you could have the best offense of all time and we would still come in there and just skulldrag you across the field.

Manziel is a great player no one is disputing that. All we are saying is that it just doesnt matter.
Posted by jonanthans
West Monroe, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2410 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 1:37 am to
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don't matter. ke ke and sam probably run as fast as him.

Keep telling yourself that. Johnny has elite speed, in the 4.40-4.45 range, with a 3.9 short shuttle. If it comes to a footrace with a DL, he will win every time.


Heard the same thing before the Oregon game last year. After the game, Oregon was wondering how Kiki ran down LaMichael James..
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 2:15 am to
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I expect him to top 350 yards total offense. He has come a LONG way both passing and picking his rushing spots since Florida and y'all have some injury issues at LB.


Book marking the frick out of this shite. You are one delusional bastard. Seems to be the standard with your fan base.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23548 posts
Posted on 10/16/12 at 2:29 am to
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We shall certainly see how well the vaunted LSU defense handles a guy as dynamic as this.


Go back and check two years of tape against WVU and Oregon for your answer. Been there, donee that with Heisman hopefuls.
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