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CidCock
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


I have seen players jump OL before, but never on this consistent of a basis and land on there feet ready to destroy the quarterback.

How does he have such good balance to do that?

What a stud....






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PinevilleTiger
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


Clowney is Mingo on steroids!





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higgins
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


I know how to neutralize Clowney. Gimmie 2 consecutive timeouts and ill tell you.





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Sits With Squirrels
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Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


Visine in the gatorade ftw






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oleheat
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


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Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.



Why don't we see how things go before declaring one guy is going to demolish us?






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Lonnie Utah
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


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Keep him guessing with screens and draws while also chipping him quite a bit


Ask Mississippi State how that worked out for them. (Hope ya'll can see the video...)

Clowney vs Mississippi State 2011

FWIW the RB he blows up was 220 lb Sr. Vick Ballard. Not some pushover.



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chRxis
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


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Gimmie 2 consecutive timeouts








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FootballNostradamus
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No

Just almost always

Especially when the MLB sees the FB running straight for the DE on every snap.


I'm glad you don't coach our LBs. The FB would absolutely have the DE or whoever was the first man to show on the LOS outside the down block on a power play like mentioned. And if we saw their MLB trying to get over the top of an off-tackle power play it would be orgasmic how many counters we could come up with off that.

I can only imagine the hole if you showed the same FB off-tackle blocking action to the frontside and then countered off a wham of the DT to the backside. It would be a hole of epic proportion if their MLB was scraping over the top of an off-tackle down block.






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TigerStripes30
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


he is blockable...just let him rush up the field and run draws and screens off of him





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Lonnie Utah
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he is blockable...just let him rush up the field and run draws and screens off of him


Everyone is blockable, it's just how much effort are you going to put into it. The way to "beat" Clowney (or any DE of this caliber ie Montgomery/Mingo) is to use his aggressiveness against him. The 1 knock on Clowney is he has a tendency to overpursue. Let him penetrate and then get the ball behind him. The question is, do the LSU coaches open the playbook to do this, and can the rest of the line stop the USC's other D-line men while allowing penetration by (or double teaming) JD7?



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zztop1234
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


Screens and run at him





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Methuselah
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


For some reason, whenever I hear or read the name Clowney, I picture Homey the Clown from the old In Living Color show





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silverthorn
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Thoughts to beat him ?


Run at him, over and over again. Make him run stop time and again in the first half. Give him plenty of hits from the tackle and fullback over and over again.






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chRxis
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


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Thoughts to beat him ?

screen pass…. most football fans know this is how you at least TRY to stop an over agressive pass rusher… let him come up field, leak the RB out the back field, throw him the ball, and make sure you block downfield….

problem is i'm sure the DC at SC knows this too….

also run to his side…. if he comes "around" the tackle, the RB drops inside and runs inside the tackle and guard, the "new" end of the OL, in this case…. after a while, he'll be ordered to check up or they come with an OLB to stop the run, but if Copeland does his job, we should have success at this...






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Sev09
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Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.

Yes we can.






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Bleeding purple
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re: Better have "Plan B"...We can't stop Clowney.


OK im no OC but here are things I would do as a HC

Talk with officials pregame about the need to control late hits and head to head contact.

Manage the snap count to draw off agressive pass rushers. Consider using short rapid hand motion by the center just prior to the snap to draw off lineman similar to what Fla was doing several years ago in TS. When it finally gets called as a penalty stop doing it.

Spread out O line on his side making him chose to line up outside (too far away), head up (slightly easier to block), or inside (where it is easier to recruit help from OG).

Consider fold or cross blocking even on pass protection. Also permissive blocking, allowing him to over penetrate and effectively getting behind the play can be effective if he will take the bait on the path of least resistance.

Run right at him repeatedly.

Run the end trap with a pulling DT if penetration is too deep on run plays.

Run the screen pass.

If showing tendency to over pursue or follow QB shallow run a reverse. Would be especially effective it set up by several Rivers/Shepard bootlegs/sweeps to the opposite side.

Implement a single TE two back set if he starts jumping over the blocking back. TE releases clean for possible dump pass, first back makes a legal chop block on him and if he goes arial the second back makes him pay for it. You do not want to be partially in the air when Ware or JC hit you. This of course requires remaining lineman block and play is called off if blitz is read.




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chRxis
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Manage the snap count to draw off agressive pass rushers. Consider using short rapid hand motion by the center just prior to the snap to draw off lineman similar to what Fla was doing several years ago in TS. When it finally gets called as a penalty stop doing it.

not sure how well that will work with the patch work OL we'll have to throw out there….
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Run the end trap with a pulling DT








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Bleeding purple
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not sure how well that will work with the patch work OL we'll have to throw out there….


this could be a problem but may be a bigger problem for the WR LSU seems to rotate in an out who look into the ball for the snap.



different nomencalature

Our coach called it the ENDTrap (as in DE) but others call it the takle trap our outside trap. The point is contralateral tackle pulling to take on DE.



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MandevilleLSUTiger
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I know how to neutralize Clowney. Gimmie 2 consecutive timeouts and ill tell you.








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