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Lsut81
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i hope this goes through.


Anarchy?






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Jake88
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No future left leaning Court is going to pa any mind to Roberts' "limits" on the Commerce Clause. It'll be cast aside arse merely dicta.


Why does it always fall to the conservative justices to keep up the apolitical image of the Court? The leftists vote lockstep on the big issues and in a totally predictable manner.






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KeyserSoze999
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john roberts did mental gymnastics in order to achieve the big picture goal of not reversing obamacare in an election year and effectively making the court a political body



and we all know that sticking his finger in the air to make laws abide in the wind blowing is much more important than defending the constitution






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SlowFlowPro
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this is an interesting scenario for IP. it really may shape what defines ownership with IP in the current statutory scheme. the problem with IP is that our laws are written for an antiquated system, so we kind of have to hodge podge ad hoc law via courts with changing technology

this is about what you own and when

think of it this way: you own 5,000 songs on your ipod. but you have those files on another system (itunes, hard drive, whatever). you sell that ipod with 5,000 songs on it and retain your copy of the songs. what prevents you from just buying up 100 ipods and putting those 5,000 songs on each and re-selling for a profit? and if that's OK, what prevents you from just burning CDs and selling them for a profit? you "own" the songs. you own the physical CDs. all you're doing is mixing 2 things you own






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Bunsbert Montcroff
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this is an interesting scenario for IP. it really may shape what defines ownership with IP in the current statutory scheme. the problem with IP is that our laws are written for an antiquated system, so we kind of have to hodge podge ad hoc law via courts with changing technology

this is about what you own and when

think of it this way: you own 5,000 songs on your ipod. but you have those files on another system (itunes, hard drive, whatever). you sell that ipod with 5,000 songs on it and retain your copy of the songs. what prevents you from just buying up 100 ipods and putting those 5,000 songs on each and re-selling for a profit? and if that's OK, what prevents you from just burning CDs and selling them for a profit? you "own" the songs. you own the physical CDs. all you're doing is mixing 2 things you own

that's a really interesting hypothetical regarding copyright infringement and IP. but i don't see exactly how it relates to this case.

based on my reading, this isn't an intellectual property issue. the kid bought physical textbooks in thailand at a low cost and resold the same textbooks in the us at a markup. so the case is about whether the first-sale doctrine applies only to us-bought stuff or stuff bought from retailers outside of the us too.






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Roaad
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Well considering John Roberts did mental gymnastics to say that the government can force you to buy a private product I wouldn't be shocked if he does the same here to say you can't sell your own private possessions.
This x 1000

Tax liens and Eminent Domain have already neutered nearly all concepts of real ownership.

This would just cut the strings for good.

Also, this law would likely eliminate your ability to, say, jailbreak an iPhone. . .considering you don't really own it.



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Choctaw
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Gee, who knew voting for a bunch of criminals would result in this becoming an issue?


well atleast you did your part by voting against them and trying to get someone else in........right?






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wilfont
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Tax liens and Eminent Domain have already neutered nearly all concepts of real ownership

So true. If you believe you own your home or land don't pay your property taxes and find out what you truly own.






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TROLA
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This case seems confusing on the ramifications. The guy in question was having books shipped over from a foreign country to resell in the US. Im not sure how this correlates to buying a product in the US and reselling in the US. Either way I hope the publisher loses. The guy simply used capitalism to his advantage.





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unbeWEAVEable
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Tucked into the U.S. Supreme Court’s agenda this fall is a little-known case that could upend your ability to resell everything from your grandmother’s antique furniture to your iPhone 4


Well, there goes the only chance of socialism ever working. Good job SC.

Then again, I'll keep the little bit of social action in exchange to not be WTF'ed by the SC






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