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re: Homeland season 2
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:58 pm to mouton
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:58 pm to mouton
So back to the episode.
Brody is playing the triple spy card like we thought - no surprise there. Something dramatic will have to happen to undue Nasir's psychological hold on him...
...which leads me to Dana, who is still on course for death, especially now that she is having issues with Brody. Those issues are likely going to be unresolved because she'll die before she can make amends with her dad.
Peter Quinn was predictably outed as someone with a secret and untrustworthy. Estes pigeonholed him into this project as a contingency, and Estes "wants to kill terrorists" by any means necessary. He's essentially playing his Walden card with these hardline decisions.
Is Saul going to accept these terms? Something tells me he won't. He clearly doesn't like being kept in the dark while Estes/Quinn/FBI run ops behind his back. Saul is more sympathetic and thoughtful than clowns like Estes and Walden.
Carrie is going to go ape shite when she finds out Estes/Quinn were part of a FBI plot to kill Brody.
Mike is still the family caretaker and all-around good guy, but now he's banging Jess again. Something tells me this won't last long. Is he going to die?
Chris is still worthless.
What do you guys think? Great episode.
Brody is playing the triple spy card like we thought - no surprise there. Something dramatic will have to happen to undue Nasir's psychological hold on him...
...which leads me to Dana, who is still on course for death, especially now that she is having issues with Brody. Those issues are likely going to be unresolved because she'll die before she can make amends with her dad.
Peter Quinn was predictably outed as someone with a secret and untrustworthy. Estes pigeonholed him into this project as a contingency, and Estes "wants to kill terrorists" by any means necessary. He's essentially playing his Walden card with these hardline decisions.
Is Saul going to accept these terms? Something tells me he won't. He clearly doesn't like being kept in the dark while Estes/Quinn/FBI run ops behind his back. Saul is more sympathetic and thoughtful than clowns like Estes and Walden.
Carrie is going to go ape shite when she finds out Estes/Quinn were part of a FBI plot to kill Brody.
Mike is still the family caretaker and all-around good guy, but now he's banging Jess again. Something tells me this won't last long. Is he going to die?
Chris is still worthless.
What do you guys think? Great episode.
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:39 am to Billy Mays
Nice breakdown Billy Mays. 
Only thing is I don't think it's actually the FBI running the side op... It's another division of the CIA in charge of wetworks and black bag stuff.
I'm happy for Jess. She needed that.
On an "OH - THAT'S where she's from!" note... I just realized that the woman who's playing Roya was the mysterious super-soldier woman on X-Files and The Lone Gunman way back when. It suddenly clicked with me tonight.
Only thing is I don't think it's actually the FBI running the side op... It's another division of the CIA in charge of wetworks and black bag stuff.
I'm happy for Jess. She needed that.
On an "OH - THAT'S where she's from!" note... I just realized that the woman who's playing Roya was the mysterious super-soldier woman on X-Files and The Lone Gunman way back when. It suddenly clicked with me tonight.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:58 am to Billy Mays
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...which leads me to Dana, who is still on course for death
I hope to hell you're right. I know the actress and writers are doing a good job at making her a miserable teenage count like she's supposed to be but enough's enough.
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Mike is still the family caretaker and all-around good guy, but now he's banging Jess again. Something tells me this won't last long. Is he going to die?
How bout they just let Mike take the family and go be happy somewhere else? That whole part of the story is just a drag on the show imo.
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Chris is still worthless.
"There's a tv in every room!" "This place is so cool!"
You were spooning with your sister kid. How bout you shut the frick up?
Posted on 11/26/12 at 10:23 am to Billy Mays
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Peter Quinn was predictably outed as someone with a secret and untrustworthy. Estes pigeonholed him into this project as a contingency, and Estes "wants to kill terrorists" by any means necessary. He's essentially playing his Walden card with these hardline decisions.
Estes is the mole. Peter X (Quinn) is his right hand plus eyes and ears on the Nazir ops.
Saul basically called out Estes while the op was going down which leads me to think Estes will take measures to neutralize Saul, whether it be getting Saul fired (by blaming this last failed Nazir op on Saul) or by getting Peter X to take him out.
I think this last FBI/CIA Nazir op was legit and it is Estes and Peter X that are Nazir's guys on the inside. Hell Peter X may have never been a CIA analyst before Estes brought him in to oversee the Nazir terror plot investigation.
I think Estes is ultimately trying to extricate himself from being Nazir's inside guy. That is why he got Peter X to go kill Brody because Brody obviously knows that there is a mole and Estes can't have anyone who might figure out he is the mole. I think he still needs Brody alive until Nazir is taken in or killed though because Brody will remain an integral part of any such operation. Estes ultimately wants Nazir dead because Estes only cares about preserving his own arse.
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