From the prologue I am definitely of the opinion that the Others are bringing the cold. I don't think it is so much a temperature thing as it is a darkness/absence of life type of result of their presence.

Bran I
I caught on something here from the children's encounter with the direwolves. Bran and John have immediate connections with them whereas no mention is made of Robb, Rickon, or the two girls. This was in response to
Theon drawing his sword to kill the pups, starting to Summer.

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The little thing squirmed against him, as if it heard and understood. "No!" Brand cried out fiercly. "It's mine."

Summer is already reacting to Bran's emotions moments after coming into contact with him.

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"Can't you hear it?" Bran could hear the wind in the trees, the clatter of their hooves on the ironwood planks, the whimpering of his hungry pup, but Jon was listening to something else.

Jon is the only one in the party who new Ghost was there. Not even Bran could sense him. So based off of this I came to two conclusions. Jon and Bran have the most power as far as Wargs go. All the children are specifically linked to their direwolves from the start. Each one was meant for a specific child, not just the albino Ghost.

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Posted by Mr. Wayne

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Posted on 9/19/12 at 8:43 am to Mr. Wayne

Nothing really significant in the Catelynn I other than the mention of the weirwoods IMO. I was hoping for some mention of a feature of the weirwood in the godswood that would show that is where Bloodraven got his longbow, but no dice.

Daenerys I

I find it odd that Dany and Viserys remember Rhaegar in the Battle of the Trident as fighting for the woman he loved. The war was started because Bob's side thought Rhaegar stole Lyanna away and raped her. Why would two children, one who was not even born yet, remember it this way? My only guess is that Ser Willem Dary knew the truth of Rhaegar and Lyanna and told Viserys and Dany the story as they grew up.

Illyrio clearly doesn't think highly of Viserys from the beginning and IMO is antagonizing him from the start. I think this fits very nicely with an opinion from crackpot that he never intended Viserys to be king. And even that he set him up with the Dothraki because he knew he would not survive with his attitude. I'm still lost on what he intended for Dany though.

Last thing... When Dany is walking through Drogo's manse, there is mention of a mosaic depicting the Doom of Valyria. Yet we get no mention of what the damn thing is showing. Just thought that was kind of a dick thing for George to mention in the book that he doesn't spend 5 pages describing.

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Posted by MFn GIMP

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Posted on 9/19/12 at 9:47 am to Mr. Wayne

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Jon is the only one in the party who new Ghost was there. Not even Bran could sense him. So based off of this I came to two conclusions. Jon and Bran have the most power as far as Wargs go. All the children are specifically linked to their direwolves from the start. Each one was meant for a specific child, not just the albino Ghost.

That is something I hadn't thought of. I had a different theory based on the Direwolf encounter and it is connected to R+L=J. It is twofold so here we go:

1. The Stag that killed the Direwolf mother is not only a prophecy regarding the death of Eddard but is a hidden reference to R+L=J. There are 6 pups, the 5 normal ones and Ghost, the albino.

The 5 normal pups obviously reference the 5 children of Eddard while Ghost is a reference to Lyanna's child - Jon. Now, I don't have the book directly in front of me at the moment so I can't give everyone the exact quote but after Ghost is found he wonders to himself how Ghost would be the only one who has opened his eyes (meaning he was born first). It is supposed that the 5 normal pups were born AFTER the mother direwolf had already been dead but if Ghost was born first it is very possible that he was born while the mother was still alive and that his birth is what sped along the mother's (Lyanna's) death.

2. The antler in the throat of the direwolf is a reference to Robert's war being what ultimately killed Lyanna. If R+L=J is true, and I think all of the evidence points to that, then we can use the "bloody bed" references to infer that Lyanna died during Jon's birth. Now, during the Tower of Joy flashbacks there is never any reference to a Maester being present. It is always just Lyanna, Howland, Eddard, a couple members of the Kingsguard, and one other person that I am blanking on at the moment.

The question becomes, if Robert had never rebelled there would have been no reason to hide Lyanna in the Tower of Joy. She could've been kept at the Red Keep where she would've been surrounded by the best Maesters and would've received the necessary medical care to keep her alive during Jon's birth.

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