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re: Greatest CFB team ever.....that wasn't undefeated

Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:00 pm to
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...I don't know how '11 LSU can be in this discussion. Magical year until the end...but


LSU is in the discussion because of the schedule. When you go 13-1, beat 3 top 6 teams, including the winners of 2 BCS conferences, you are in the discussion. The last game can knock them out, but they deserve mention.


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a great run D and really good QB and receivers could have beat LSU handily


define handily. Funny that one game proves everything to SFP, but all the others are outliers. Your hypothetical team better have a great OL too.

I think overall CFB was down a little last year compared to past years. 2005, 2006 even 2000 i think there were more deep, better teams.

I'll stick with the 86 and 2002 Canes. 05 USC just was too bad on D, maybe the GOAT of CFB offense though.
This post was edited on 9/11/12 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:06 pm to
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I think overall CFB was down a little last year compared to past years. 2005, 2006 even 2000 i think there were more deep, better teams.

I'll stick with the 86 and 2002 Canes. 05 USC just was too bad on D.


That's all fair and rational.

I would say '05 USC could be in any game against any of the greats because their O was insane...but their D was so mediocre you could never count on it to make those crucial stops and so I wouldn't bet on them - they're a curiosity of what if...but that ND game is perfect example when USC went ahead and then ND drove right down the field in a minute to seem to seal the win...because USC's offense was ridiculous, the day was saved...but frankly, you simply need a better D when championships are on the line.
This post was edited on 9/11/12 at 12:07 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:08 pm to
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Funny that one game proves everything to SFP, but all the others are outliers.

i said long before we knew we were playing bama again that the game against a big opponent that we didn't get a magical special teams play (i don't even think i included defense), we'd lose

LSU was a SEVERELY flawed team in 2011
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 9/11/12 at 12:45 pm to
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LSU is in the discussion because of the schedule. When you go 13-1, beat 3 top 6 teams, including the winners of 2 BCS conferences, you are in the discussion. The last game can knock them out, but they deserve mention.

Also when you win all of those games by blowout. And while LSU had a poor pass game, the running game was unbelievably good and the defense was otherworldly. The team just relentlessly wore you down.

AJ played the game of his life in January and good on him for doing so, but that no more exposed Matthieu than LSU "exposed" Darron Thomas as being overrated. McCarron made some absurd throws in that game. Matthieu has now become remarkably underrated as know-it-alls try and discount his cover skills, which were pretty darn good if not on Claiborne's level. But this "Mathieu couldn't cover" crap is poor revisionism by people pretending to possess insight that they really don't have.
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