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re: Americans Abroad Thread
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:26 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:26 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:
Like I said, my definition of world class must be very different from yours.
A striker in a top 5 league that wins the golden boot for said league should be world class..
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:30 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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A striker in a top 5 league that wins the golden boot for said league should be world class..
1 EPL
2 La Liga
3 Bundesliga
4 Serie A
5 Ligue 1
And he hasn't won it yet. Look I'm a huge Jozy fan but he is not world class. He is becoming a quality player who may one day become world class.
This post was edited on 9/16/12 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:33 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:
A striker in a top 5 league that wins the golden boot for said league should be world class..
Um, no. I don't think there is a single world class player in the Eredivisie right now.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:39 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Glass did say "on the cusp" of world-class. I can live with that. 
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:45 pm to WarSlamEagle
quote:
Glass did say "on the cusp" of world-class. I can live with that.
Yup. Like I said, different definitions.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:51 pm to glassman
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Torres or Carroll?
Posted on 9/16/12 at 11:02 pm to DB10_AFC
quote:
1 EPL
2 La Liga
3 Bundesliga
4 Serie A
5 Ligue 1
Ok fine, what's #6?
Posted on 9/16/12 at 11:08 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
6 Liga Sagres (Portuguese league)
7 Russian Premier League
8 Eredivise (Netherlands)
7 Russian Premier League
8 Eredivise (Netherlands)
Posted on 9/16/12 at 11:11 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:
Ok fine, what's #6?
Primeira Liga
Ukranian Premier League
Russian Premier League
Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A
Belgian Pro League
Eredivisie would probably be #8 or #9 on my list.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 11:18 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
EPL
La Liga
Bundesliga
Serie A
Ligue 1
Portuguese League
Brasiliero
Eredivisie/Russian League
La Liga
Bundesliga
Serie A
Ligue 1
Portuguese League
Brasiliero
Eredivisie/Russian League
Posted on 9/17/12 at 9:26 am to WarSlamEagle
Posted on 9/17/12 at 10:13 am to WarSlamEagle
Well I obviously should have went with my original idea of saying top 10 league.
Basically winning the golden boot puts you in a very elite group of players. Am I suggesting he could replicate it in all of those other leagues? no, most couldn't. But being in that elite group would make one "On the cusp" of being world class.
Basically winning the golden boot puts you in a very elite group of players. Am I suggesting he could replicate it in all of those other leagues? no, most couldn't. But being in that elite group would make one "On the cusp" of being world class.
Posted on 9/17/12 at 2:20 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
Fair enough, I still disagree completely. I think the term "world class" is being thrown around a bit too loosely. Jozy is nowhere near being world class in my opinion.
But by your own standards, Luis Suarez is world class
But by your own standards, Luis Suarez is world class
This post was edited on 9/17/12 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:13 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Suarez is world class. Jozy is not. People like Messi, RVP, Rooney, Inniesta, and Thiago Silva are examples of world class players.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:19 pm to DB10_AFC
quote:
Suarez is world class.
What is this I don't even
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:20 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:
I don't think there is a single world class player in the Eredivisie right now.
Eriksen maybe. Certainly on the cusp.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:22 pm to WarSlamEagle
quote:The truth. Look at his track record with club and country and also watch game film and tell me he isn't the most dangerous man on the pitch most if not all of the time.
What is this I don't even
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:27 pm to Puddinhead
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Eriksen maybe. Certainly on the cusp.
Probably one of the few I would consider, although his performance in the Euros is much more telling of where his developmental progress currently is. He certainly has world class talent though.
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:32 pm to DB10_AFC
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The truth. Look at his track record with club and country and also watch game film and tell me he isn't the most dangerous man on the pitch most if not all of the time.
I don't consider him world class anymore. He was at Ajax, but, for whatever reason, he hasn't made the full transition at Liverpool.
There are a handful of world class strikers, and I don't consider Suarez to be one of them.
:inb4racistPoolhater:
Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:36 pm to WarSlamEagle
I can understand that although I do think his struggled are highlighted because of a very poor surrounding cast. There are few clubs in the world (maybe 2) where he wouldn't immediately start, and that is my definition of world class.
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