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“I looked for you on the Trident,” Ned said to them.
“We were not there,” Ser Gerold answered.
“Woe to the Usurper if we had been,” said Ser Oswell.
“When King's Landing fell, Ser Jaime slew your king with a golden sword, and I wondered where you were.”
“Far away,” Ser Gerold said, “or Aerys would yet sit the Iron Throne, and our false brother would burn in seven hells.”
“I came down on Storm's End to lift the siege,” Ned told them, and the Lords Tyrell and Redwyne dipped their banners, and all their knights bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”
“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Arthur Dayne.
“Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”
“Ser Willem is a good man and true,” said Ser Oswell.
“But not of the Kingsguard,” Ser Gerold pointed out. “The Kingsguard does not flee.”
“Then or now,” said Ser Arthur. He donned his helm.
“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Gerold.
Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.
“And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.
“No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”

So, Ned defeats Rheager; then runs to Dragonstone; then the tower of Joy... It just doesn't add up if his purpose was to "deny Jon his birthright"... seems he would gone to Tower of Joy/ search for Lyanna first.

The idea that their vow was to kill Ned intrigues me... They knew Ned would come for Lyanna at the Tower of Joy and there they waited.

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Ser Willem Darry is fled to Dragonstone, with your queen and Prince Viserys. I thought you might have sailed with him.”

If Ned knew Jon existed why would he think they would be with the Queen and Viserys the future heir?

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Posted by ladytiger118

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Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:43 pm to Zephyrius

I don't think Ned knew about Jon beforehand, and didn't find out until he went in the tower. But, it does make you wonder why they weren't with Viserys, which makes R+L=J even more likely.

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Posted by kingbob

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Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:46 pm to Zephyrius

Yeah, some of the details of the lead up to the Tower of Joy scene intrigue me.

How long after the Siege of King's Landing was the Tower of Joy standoff?

Where exactly is the Tower of Joy? I'm assuming it's in Dorne near Starfall.

Obviously, protecting the heir to the throne makes perfect sense for the Kingsguard to be there, especially if Rheagar instructed them to defend his bride and heir, but why did they have to kill Ned? Ned was Lyanna's brother, if anyone would help them protect the new King it would be his uncle. Granted, his uncle was the Userper's field general and right hand man.

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Posted by TigerintheNO

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Posted on 9/30/13 at 2:42 pm to Zephyrius

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So, Ned defeats Rheager; then runs to Dragonstone; then the tower of Joy... It just doesn't add up if his purpose was to "deny Jon his birthright"...

Ned left King's Landing to lift the siege at Storm's Ends. Stannis was sent to Dragonstone.

The King's guard was protecting their new born king.

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