re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Thanks for posting that .


Also y'all, I want to discuss some Crackpot theories about Sansa:

Supposedly one of George's editors, or some insider, says there's going to be a "controversial" Sansa POV chapter in TWOW.

Forum of Ice and Fire link to thread

-A lot of people think it's either going to be:

A) Something with Sansa exploring her sexuality--willingly--perhaps with LF? or HtH?
B) Sansa killing SweetRobin
C) Sansa killing LF (some fans think that's too early in TWOW to occur and don't see LF death happening until later in the last 2 books rather than at the beginning of TWOW)
D) Sansa having a Dany handmaiden moment


Also, I found this post on another thread on the same forum that blows my mind...never thought about it before.

Scroll down to the post by TZE--very interesting read

The TLDR summary is that Sansa and Jon are somewhat foils to each other in a lot of ways, and never seem to interact one-on-one with each other.

-Jon is most like Ned and the North, keeps the Old Gods; Sansa is most like Catelyn and the South, keeps the Seven)
-Jon is offered Lordship in ASOS, Sansa takes on the role of a Bastard
-Despite that Jon and Sansa are somewhat distant from each other in AGOT, they both seem to love each other deep down as siblings and both tend to think about each other in the books every once in a while (Sansa probably used Jon as her 'inspiration' to be Alayne)
-Sansa loved singers and songs, Jon had no use for them or liked them until he heard Mance sing

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The Littlefinger/Lysa/Sansa dynamic played out almost as a vicious, over-the-top caricature of the Ned/Catelyn/Jon dynamic, with Sansa forced to literally stand in a (heavily skewed and sensationalized) version of Jon's shoes: Catelyn saw Jon as a living representation of another woman that she feared Ned loved more than her, and Lysa saw Sansa as a living representation of Catelyn, the woman that Lysa (rightly) feared Littlefinger loved more than her. Sansa seemed to have a much closer relationship with her mother than with her father (the exact opposite of Jon), but "Alayne" had a much "closer" relationship with Littlefinger than with Lysa---Sansa takes on with Littlefinger (a much skeevier version of) the relatively close father/child relationship that Jon had with Ned.

In her final chapter of AFFC, Sansa thinks to herself:

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She had not thought of Jon in ages.

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Or so Sansa tells herself. But I think there's a pretty good chance Sansa had actually been subconsciously thinking about Jon ever since she took on the Alayne Stone identity, because Sansa seems to be subconsciously patterning her "Alayne Stone" persona around Jon Snow. Sansa wants "Alayne" to be 14 years old, because "She had decided that Alayne Stone should be older than Sansa Stark". How old was Jon the last time Sansa saw him? 14 years old. She becomes worried at the prospect of dancing, because she seems to think that, for some unexplained reason, Alayne Stone might not enjoy dancing.

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Re Tze's interesting analysis of Sansa and Jon,


This goes a long way to disprove the notion a lot of people have that Sansa hated Jon, or that they were cold and distanced. The description of how Sansa had a hard time fitting Jon into her world view I think is spot on. It also seems to fit perfectly with how she uses Jon as somewhat of a model for Alayne Stone too (I think there is a bit of Mya in there too, but Sansa knew Jon longer, and it should be an obvious choice for her to draw on her experiences of Jon).

Again I think people project Cat onto Sansa here: because she looks like Cat, she must feel the same as Cat, but we never see Sansa showing any dislike for Jon at all, nor do we see Jon thinking of Sansa in a negative manner. He does think some snarky thoughts about how Lysa, Cat's sister, would like to support Ned's bastard son with food, but that is all.

I also share the opinion that the fact that we never see Sansa and Jon interact on the pages is by intent. It will make any future interaction have more impact, and as if they met for the first time. Which in some ways it will be, since Jon is no longer a bastard, and Sansa is no longer a lady and a possible future queen.

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