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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:20 am to ladytiger118
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:20 am to ladytiger118
From a few pages ago:
My dime-store scientific opinion:
the only reason the Earth has seasons is it's tilted axis. I would assume a planet without any tilt, and in a semi-circular orbit, would then have separate but consistent climate conditions per geographic location. (Dorne vs LoAW)
The only climate changes would therefore have to be based on this planet's orbit, specifically it's period and apogee / perigee - for example, lets say it takes their planet 100 earth years to complete one cycle, with an extremely elliptical orbit. One could expect the majority of that cycle to be spent either on approach or away from its sun, (colder, darker) representing WINTER and a much shorter time near the sun, representing SUMMER.
Of course, a moon world orbiting a Gas Giant could represent a similar effect, but include long periods of total darkness during time spent in the giant's shadow. Only thing is, the Gas Giant should be visible almost all the time from the ground of this moon, and we've heard no mention of one. Besides, a moon orbiting a GG would never be able to hang on to its atmosphere.
Basic idea, where 1= midpoint of winter and 2= midpoint of summer, 3= sun
End science guy rant.
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GRRM has promised an explanation for the haywire seasons. He claims it even makes sense
My dime-store scientific opinion:
the only reason the Earth has seasons is it's tilted axis. I would assume a planet without any tilt, and in a semi-circular orbit, would then have separate but consistent climate conditions per geographic location. (Dorne vs LoAW)
The only climate changes would therefore have to be based on this planet's orbit, specifically it's period and apogee / perigee - for example, lets say it takes their planet 100 earth years to complete one cycle, with an extremely elliptical orbit. One could expect the majority of that cycle to be spent either on approach or away from its sun, (colder, darker) representing WINTER and a much shorter time near the sun, representing SUMMER.
Of course, a moon world orbiting a Gas Giant could represent a similar effect, but include long periods of total darkness during time spent in the giant's shadow. Only thing is, the Gas Giant should be visible almost all the time from the ground of this moon, and we've heard no mention of one. Besides, a moon orbiting a GG would never be able to hang on to its atmosphere.
Basic idea, where 1= midpoint of winter and 2= midpoint of summer, 3= sun
End science guy rant.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 10:29 am to 19
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Basic idea, where 1= midpoint of winter and 2= midpoint of summer, 3= sun
I was thinking of posting the same idea. Seems like the only logical explanation but, if this theory was right, you should have the same times of winter/summer throughout time. If I remember right, there were short Summers AND short Winters.
Posted on 6/13/13 at 12:07 pm to 19
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My dime-store scientific opinion
I THINK I read somewhere that Martin said that the reasoning behind the haywire seasons was "magic". I'll see if I can locate where I read that.
Here's one quote I found from him on the subject..
quote:- See more at: LINK
I have gotten a number of fan letters over the years from readers who are trying to figure out the reason for why the seasons are the way they are. They develop lengthy theories: perhaps it’s a multiple-star system, and what the axial tilt is, but I have to say, “Nice try, guys, but you’re thinking in the wrong direction.” This is a fantasy series. I am going to explain it all eventually, but it’s going to be a fantasy explanation. It’s not going to be a science-fiction explanation.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 12:21 pm
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