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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 4/8/13 at 10:29 am to
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Posted on 4/8/13 at 10:29 am to
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I think he was referring to the Targaryen seed being strong and not Baratheon, even though the Baratheons were decedents of Targareons and also strong.


Amen, brother.

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I also don't but Lysa being one ultimately behind Jon Arryn's death, she's was pretty easy to manipulate...Are we really suppose to believe Varys knew the poison but didn't know the murderer of Jon Arryn?


That's an excellent point - I never really questioned Lysa as the culprit, but it makes sense that Varys wouldn't want to instigate instability to that degree before Aegon/ Dany was ready. I mention them both, because I still believe Varys too smart not to hedge his bets, especially if "Mummer's Dragon" means "fake dragon" instead of "fake MAN's dragon"

ETA- Hugo, what about this:

Re-read your thy, and it makes a point - Varys knew that Jon Arryn was getting too close, researching beyond the Lannister incest, which if exposed, would not only shake King's Landing to its core, but could in someway lead to Varys' own identity, as well. To buy time, he had to remove Jon from the equation, knowing Robert would turn to Ned...and that Ned would be satisfied with the Lannsiter incest and stop there, which he did.

Only issue here is we know LF was involved...is Varys so skilled at the game that he could make LF think killing Jon Arryn was his idea, and also lend evidence to make LF believe his own world were at risk if he didn't? and at the same time have LF believe this was his idea and his alone the whole time? The very definition of "Throneception?"

...Varys manipulates Littlefinger who manipulates Lysa who murders her husband.

Very good stuff.
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 10:44 am
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