re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

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*Mr. Wayne*

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Stannis gets a TON of love on this board, so you won't find much support here, but I'm with you.

Stannis' "honor" is sort of a sham imo. He only hears what he wants to and turned his back on everything, his wife, his gods, to embrace whatever would get him the throne which he sees as his "by rights".

Hell, he murdered his own brother, and in a most DISHONORABLE way possible. He's a straight up kinslayer. And he didn't even have the sack to do it himself in single combat, but left it to witchcraft and sorcery.

I was shocked by all the love he got when the series came out. I kind of hated him in the books, although he has moments where Davos or Jon are able to pull the honorable side of him out, but overall he's blinded by his obsession with taking the throne and allows Melisandre to overtake any honor he has deep inside. He's driven as much by spite over being spurned by Robert when he gave Storm's End to Renly than about the good of the realm.

Stannis is no true king, and hides behind false honor and piety imo.

Hell, even Eddard Stark was wary of Stannis and had no love for him, even though Ned would have supported his claim with the info he had at the time, but not because of his belief in his ability to rule.

I mean, Stannis was going to kill Robert's son to further his claim, something we know Ned would never have allowed.

I know Stannis' theme is everyone's favorite, but I just don't get the love for his character. He is clearly being controlled by a darkness, and Jon and Davos, two people whose honor is beyond question have ZERO trust or respect for Mel, and Stannis is 100% being controlled by her.

Unless Stannis abandons Mel, he will meet a dark and dishonorable death, and that's pretty clear IMO.