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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 3/7/13 at 9:21 am to
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 9:21 am to
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it's mentioned more then a few times throughout the books that there are a good portion of Westeros residents that called Robert the Usurper up until he died. So Jon could have just as legitimate of a claim in the eyes of Westeros.


Weren't those mostly baseless rumors whispered in Viserys's ear by Illyrio? I could be forgetting, but I don't really remember any first hand experience of people in Westeros anxiously waiting for the return of the Targs.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 9:24 am to
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Weren't those mostly baseless rumors whispered in Viserys's ear by Illyrio? I could be forgetting, but I don't really remember any first hand experience of people in Westeros anxiously waiting for the return of the Targs.


I remember Robert bitching about it as well that some people continue to call him Usurper. I think Illyrio exaggerated how many people said that, but I'd say there were certainly some. Wouldn't shock me if the Martells called him that behind closed doors.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 9:35 am to
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Weren't those mostly baseless rumors whispered in Viserys's ear by Illyrio? I could be forgetting, but I don't really remember any first hand experience of people in Westeros anxiously waiting for the return of the Targs.


I'm pretty sure Robert himself makes the comment that he knows there are those who still call him Usurper behind his back.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 4:14 pm to
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Weren't those mostly baseless rumors whispered in Viserys's ear by Illyrio? I could be forgetting, but I don't really remember any first hand experience of people in Westeros anxiously waiting for the return of the Targs.


Also, IIRC when Arya is escaping from King's Landing there are some peasants that say that how the peasants were being treated in the war would never happen under the old king. When asked if they were talking about Robert the peasants responded that they were talking about Aerys. The common people still remember the Targs fondly.

On another note, what do y'all make of the document that Robb signed that legitimized Jon? What do y'all think happened to it? Was it lost? Is it a hint that Jon will wind up ruler of the North or is it just a red herring?
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