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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:31 pm to
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Posted on 1/14/13 at 12:31 pm to
Speaking of Jaime...when I was flipping through Swords and Crows last night looking for Tyrion's escape:

I came across Jaime rec'ing the letter from Cersei with all the "Need you/ I love yous" repeated...found it interesting that it was the 0ld Maester of Riverrun (Vyman or something like that) who actually read it before giving it to Jaime...then Jaime gives it back to him to burn.

Jaime had just forced Edmure to yield the castle and Brynden Blackfish escaped...would Vyman remain loyal to House Tulley and keep this letter
Could be used to help prove Tommen's illigitimacy?

And:

In same chapter, Jaime has a dream about a blonde-haired woman, dressed as a Silent Sister. She says Tywin had always dreamed that his son would be a great knight and his daughter a queen and that no one would laugh at them. When Jaime replies that his son is a knight and his daughter is a queen, a tear rolls down the woman's cheek and she walks away.

Could this be Joanna Lannister, knowing that Tywin in truth had no daughters...only a son? and that son is no knight...and weeping because Jaime still believes Tywin is his father? Making the Mad King / Prima Nocte theory even stronger, since the twins were born before Tyrion?

In a preceeding chapter, Jaime has a private conversation with his aunt Genna (wife of Emmon Frey) where she kicks her husband out to talk to Jaime in private, giving him advice on how to handle the Riverrun siege.
At last, they discuss Lord Tywin, and Jaime asks her if she loved her eldest brother. Lady Genna tells him how it was Tywin, a boy of only ten, who objected to their lord father's decision to wed the seven year old Genna to Emmon Frey, who was not even the heir to the Twins. For that alone, she loved him, stating, "...every little girl needs a big brother to protect her. Who will protect us now?" When Jaime insists that he is his father's son, his aunt replies, "You smile like Gerion and fight like Tyg, and there's some of Kevan in you, else you would not wear that cloak... but Tyrion is Tywin's son, not you."

More of Martin's double-talk?

Hmmmmm.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 1/14/13 at 1:00 pm to
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Could this be Joanna Lannister, knowing that Tywin in truth had no daughters...only a son? and that son is no knight...and weeping because Jaime still believes Tywin is his father? Making the Mad King / Prima Nocte theory even stronger, since the twins were born before Tyrion?



No. I just interpreted it as Jaime and Cersei losing everything and living a life of misery to get to that point. There is even less doubt that Jaime and Cersei are of Tywin and Johanna than Tyrion is.

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More of Martin's double-talk?


I think you're thinking too much into this.
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