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Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:17 pm to
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:17 pm to
WEll, one question i have is what were all the visions of Jon's future that Mel had?

I know the one about the knives in darkness but what else?
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 6:43 pm to
Melisandre's dreams/visions are very hit or miss. I wouldn't drive myself crazy trying to decipher them
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 7:05 pm to
She is having trouble understanding them because she isn't allowing herself to see. Basically they are showing her Jon is the true Azor Ahai and she's missing it
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 7:10 pm to
I believe she's starting to figure it out, though.
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:04 pm to
What are they exactly though? From her perspective
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:08 pm to
Everytime she looks in the flames all she sees is Snow. As in Jon Snow
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 8/30/14 at 1:01 am to
"All I see is Snow" are her words and the 's' in Snow is capitalized to mean Jon.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 4:04 pm to
That's right. On my first read of aDwD I didn't catch that so I thought I'd point it out so the poster that just finished reading could maybe put it together. I just kept thinking, "well I guess winter is coming cause Melisandre's visions are just of snow." Then on a re-read I noticed the S was capitalized and I felt like a moron
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:35 pm to
So apparently Syrio Forel is joining Star Wars movie-- or at least the actor is.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 9:43 am to
Re-reading "The Ghost of Winterfell" chapter last night and it occurred to me that Lady Dustin may know that Sansa is still alive somehow? When she is discussing with Theon why he has to be the one to give Jeyne away, she conspicuously leaves out that Arya's sister is lost, dead or captured. She says her brothers, father, uncles and mother are. Nothing about her sister.

Maybe this falls under the Great Northern Conspiracy theory. I don't know, I haven't read all of it.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:02 am to
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"The Ghost of Winterfell" chapter


What a great chapter. One of my favorites.

Lady Dustin is such an intriguing character. Yes in the GNC theory it is mentioned that she is in on it with Manderly.

I feel she will be involved in a northern Red Wedding 2.0 situation. Either with Sansa's wedding or Fake Arya's wedding. GRRM has stated recently that there will be more weddings
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:04 am to
quote:

or Fake Arya's wedding

Can't really be then since it already happened in said chapter.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Re-reading "The Ghost of Winterfell" chapter last night and it occurred to me that Lady Dustin may know that Sansa is still alive somehow? When she is discussing with Theon why he has to be the one to give Jeyne away, she conspicuously leaves out that Arya's sister is lost, dead or captured. She says her brothers, father, uncles and mother are. Nothing about her sister.


I think everyone assumes that Sansa is still alive. It's not like Arya, who should have honestly been killed by now. What an outsider should think is that Sansa killed Joffrey, and set up an escape plan with other conspirators, and kept her husband out of the loop for him to take the fall and get all of Cersei's wrath. Joffrey's death was obviously well planned in order for Sansa to have gotten away with it. Safe to say that Sansa is being hidden by someone somewhere, it's just difficult to now who is hiding her.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:43 pm to
Well not necessarily that she's alive, but that she's out and about and not dead/lost/captured.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 3:06 pm to
Can someone please email me the other books like the princess and the dragon or the dunk and egg chronicles or whatever else?


I've suddenly got a lot of time on my hands


fr33manator@gmail.com
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 3:37 pm to
I will kick a baby if Tyrion is a Targ. (He is so much like his father in terms of intelligence it's scary) "He is the Prince that was Promised. And his is the Song of Ice and Fire." Dany isn't the source of the story, Jon is as the embodiment of both Ice(Lyanna) and Fire(Rhaegar).

Screw all that other nonsense.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 3:40 pm to
I think it's pretty clear he's never read the novels before and is just listening to fans of the books. He really seems to think that Lyanna have birth to Jon during the Battle of the Trident, not months later.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 4:43 pm to
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He really seems to think that Lyanna have birth to Jon during the Battle of the Trident, not months later.


Did Lyannna not die in childbirth? From birthing John? In the Tower of Joy?

How many months after the Battle of the Trident was this?
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