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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:13 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:13 pm to OMLandshark
One of my employees emailed me this today. Him and his buddies think Howland Reed is the new High Septon. I think it's crazy, but still read it
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:22 pm to OMLandshark
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I'm divided. Both of these characters I think more than any others that I swing between them dying or surviving the series. Sansa had her wolf killed and I can't think of any marriage prospects that the series would provide her after the war. Arya I'm confident is going to have a sad or bittersweet ending, to where I think if she survives, she'll continue to do her own vigilante style of murdering anyone she feels that wronged her or the innocents.
Well, she's presently married to Tyrion who is not that far from being the head of the Lanister family (if you ignore or rectify the whole kinslaying thing). I think he's after Tommen, Myrcella (not sure how female succession plays out here if at all). Jamie is commander of the Kingsguard and it's kind of doubtful he survives the whole thing.
Then if Tyrion is out of the picture, I think Littlefinger woud marry Sansa in a heartbeat.
So I think she has marriage prospects. That's not to say she will (or should) survive. I'm kind of torn on both questions.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:29 pm to putt23
There is something more to the High Septon than we are being told. There's no way he doesn't rise up that quickly without having someone behind him. I feel sure that it is Varys that is responsible for it, and if it weren't the fact that he is bone thin, I'd say he was likely Varys himself.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:30 pm to Methuselah
There are clearly people that would marry Sansa, but not one that could have a satisfactory and happy conclusion for Sansa's character.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:53 pm to OMLandshark
I'll be honest. It wouldn't bother me much is Sansa's character didn't have a satisfactory and happy conclusion. She's never been one of my favorite characters.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:00 pm to Methuselah
She's growing on me tbh.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:03 pm to OMLandshark
Does the High Septon have any thing to do with "magic coming back into the world?"
Maybe the "magic" of the seven will come back too, like that of R'hollor and the Old Gods
Maybe the "magic" of the seven will come back too, like that of R'hollor and the Old Gods
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:04 pm to Methuselah
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She's never been one of my favorite characters.
I think she's poised for a redemptive story arc.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:26 pm to Methuselah
How can you say that about my precious Lemoncake?? 
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:28 pm to OMLandshark
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There are clearly people that would marry Sansa, but not one that could have a satisfactory and happy conclusion for Sansa's character.
Sandor would. She'd be marrying the knight that she always dreamed about...albeit not traditional
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:40 pm to ladytiger118
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There are clearly people that would marry Sansa, but not one that could have a satisfactory and happy conclusion for Sansa's character.
Sansa meets up with the brotherhood in the riverlands, falls in love with Gendry and they live happily ever after. Gendry legitimized and Stark and Baratheon rule the kingdom like Robert planned all along
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:52 pm to CE Tiger
Ugh, that'd be cheesy
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:56 pm to Dire Wolf
holy shite this would be awesome:
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Here's a theory I threw about on the official forums a while ago about how I think it will happen -
I think Cersei's trial by combat will feature a weaker opponent - probably Lancel - as the Faith's champion. I believe she will bring out Robert Strong who will basically turn the opponent into a puddle on the floor - much to the shock of the Faith. I think Cersei will then retain her power and the turmoil in King's Landing will persist.
Sansa is currently set to wed - as it stands she is masquerading as Littlefinger's daughter, and as the most powerful lord here it seems like the wedding will have to take place at his own seat - Harrenhall. I think the wedding will proceed to there, but not before Cersei finds out about Sansa's location. Cue Cersei sending a force led by Robert Strong to kill her on the way to her wedding.
Basically I think there's going to be a massive fight near Harrenhall, (which incidentally is somewhere in the region of the Quiet Isle). Littlefinger's forces will be apparently overrun (Sansa's husband-to-be I think will be one of the first casualties, unlucky mate). Thankfully, the Lannister's plans were also found out (probably by a certain 7-stringed chap who's been spying on their troop movements) and the Brotherhood Without Banners charge in as the cavalry - led by Brienne of Tarth and Jaime Lannister, who finally have the opportunity to prove their oath to Catelyn.
Brienne will be wearing the Hound's helmet, given to her by Lem to cover up her disfigured face, and both her and Jaime will face off against Robert Strong. Remember Bran's dream? This is where it comes true -
"There were shadows all around them. One shadow was dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound. Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful. Over them both loomed a giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor, there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood" (Bran III)."
I think what will happen here is that Brienne will be mortally wounded by Robert Strong, and she will lose her new helm in the fight too. But before Jaime can be crushed too along with Sansa, a strange figure walks up and picks up the helm - THAT'S RIGHT MOTHERfrickERS IT'S CLEGANEBOWL.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:59 pm to fr33manator
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Does the High Septon have any thing to do with "magic coming back into the world?"
Maybe the "magic" of the seven will come back too, like that of R'hollor and the Old Gods
Well, they've certainly gained power if not necessarily magic. The whole Faith Militant stuff and High Septon and those nun-like women (I should be able to remember what they're called that imprisoned Sersi all seemed to have an increased influence and poer.
I don't know that they've went into much details about what type of magic the seven were supposed to have - other than maybe granting prayers in their roles.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:00 pm to CE Tiger
Damn. That would be fricking epic.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:02 pm to CE Tiger
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But before Jaime can be crushed too along with Sansa, a strange figure walks up and picks up the helm - THAT'S RIGHT MOTHERfrickERS IT'S CLEGANEBOWL.
This will be my reaction:
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:03 pm to CE Tiger
I heavily doubt that will happen, particularly since the Brotherhood doesn't have that large of a force, and any army Littlefinger can muster up from the Vale and the Riverlands should be able to defeat anything Cersei can. Seriously, the Lannisters/Tyrells have 3 fronts right now, and add Littlefinger to the situation, then its 4. No way could they overpower anything he could muster, especially when he has Ned Stark's daughter at his side.
This prophecy seems to refer to the Starks themselves. The Mountain has had almost nothing to do with them aside from pissing Arya off. The Giant is Littlefinger himself. The Giant of Stone refers to the Titan of Braavos (his house sigil), and the darkness represents his dark soul and a black hole wanting to engulf everything, and his black blood indicates how absolute rotten to the core he is on the inside.
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"There were shadows all around them. One shadow was dark as ash, with the terrible face of a hound. Another was armored like the sun, golden and beautiful. Over them both loomed a giant in armor made of stone, but when he opened his visor, there was nothing inside but darkness and thick black blood" (Bran III)."
This prophecy seems to refer to the Starks themselves. The Mountain has had almost nothing to do with them aside from pissing Arya off. The Giant is Littlefinger himself. The Giant of Stone refers to the Titan of Braavos (his house sigil), and the darkness represents his dark soul and a black hole wanting to engulf everything, and his black blood indicates how absolute rotten to the core he is on the inside.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:04 pm to ladytiger118
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There may be extra points here if Thoros is killed and loses his flaming sword - I think there's a good chance of this because it not only prevents any battlefield resurrections but it gives Sandor a weapon that can kill the undead (although oathkeeper is another solid bet). I think the flaming sword would be better though because of the irony of Sandor using fire to kill what was once his brother. Anyway - I think THIS is what Rhllor had planned for Sandor so long ago.
I think there's also multiple levels of irony here that add to the drama of the scene -
firstly Sandor killing his brother with fire (as his brother hurt him).
Secondly the fact that Sandor is no long killing him in wrath; he can only win because he is finally at peace and does so defending Sansa, not for his own revenge.
Sansa finally gets her "knight in shining armor" - The very man who told her such things did not exist.
I think despite vanquishing Robert Strong, Sandor will also be mortally wounded, and will probably do the dramatic thing and die in Sansa's arms, possibly with a heart-rending "little bird" final quote - oh, and the news that Arya is alive.
Here's where the rest of it comes together. Firstly I think Brienne will currently be dying in Jaime's arms, who finally confesses his love for her, and Brienne dies knowing her oath was kept. Jaime then goes completely batshit, marches into King's Landing, confronts Cersei, and strangles her to death with his golden hand (totally paralleling Tyrion's story with the "hands of gold" that keeps getting mentioned, and also fulfilling the "valonquar" prophecy. oh also I believe that makes them both kinslayers too, they're both finally equal at this point and I believe this dichotomy is an important part of G R R Martin's writing for those two). I also believe Brienne's death is the only thing that could truly push Jaime so far as to kill Cersei.
BONUS - I think Sansa will catch Gendry's eye. Yep, I think Sansa has had her fill of noblemen and after finding out what Gendry has done for her sister will fall for the Baratheon bastard. Note Jaime makes a comment a while back about how she'll "marry some blacksmith". I don't think that quote was coincidental. I shouldn't worry too much about the lineage, it still unites the Baratheon and Stark lines, and I suspect whoever wins will be handing out the titles at the end anyway.
DOUBLE BONUS - I think there's a good chance Littlefinger will flee the battle to Harrenhall - where Catelyn is waiting for him, quite literally the ghost in Harrenhall. I think Baelish will meet her and to his horror will die screaming at her hands. Bit of an outside bet this one but I think it'd be really cool if it happened.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:08 pm to CE Tiger
Interesting theory. I'm not quite buying it for a couple of reasons:
- I'm not seeing Jamie as turning against the Lannisters to the point of launching a surprise flank attack on them just yet.
- I think many (probably most) kind of feel that a Hound/UnMountain showdown is somewhere on the horizon. But I think the Faith will likely play into it somehow. Otherwise, why put him in the monastery place.
Oh, and who is the seven stringed fellow? One of the Brotherhood?
- I'm not seeing Jamie as turning against the Lannisters to the point of launching a surprise flank attack on them just yet.
- I think many (probably most) kind of feel that a Hound/UnMountain showdown is somewhere on the horizon. But I think the Faith will likely play into it somehow. Otherwise, why put him in the monastery place.
Oh, and who is the seven stringed fellow? One of the Brotherhood?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:09 pm to CE Tiger
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I think there's a good chance Littlefinger will flee the battle to Harrenhall - where Catelyn is waiting for him, quite literally the ghost in Harrenhall. I think Baelish will meet her and to his horror will die screaming at her hands. Bit of an outside bet this one but I think it'd be really cool if it happened.
I've always liked the idea of an UnCat-Littlefinger meeting.
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