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re: Herb Vincent (LSU AAD) clears up TM7s status w/ LSU...Discredits GG!

Posted on 8/14/12 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54155 posts
Posted on 8/14/12 at 12:14 pm to
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there are lots of ways for a family with means to not be particularly liquid at any given moment (especially in the midst of a serious recession) and thus have trouble coming up with funds for a very substantial and unexpected expense


And there are lots of ways this can be rectified in the short term (in time not to have his classes purged) while they work through a long term solution if the cash is not liquid. You, and others like you, are creating a "This is a valid concern becaus what if ___________."

There is no reason to believe it is a concern. The fact that it is still under heavy consideration by TM and his family is all the evidence you need. If they didn't think it could be handled one way or the other, we would not be in limbo right now.

Why do you feel like your low percentage possibilities are valid cause for concern just because of a "maybe"? There is absolutley zero indication that tuition is an issue, yet you and others have to validta eyour concernce because of a maybe.

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Do you seriously not get how much money is involved here and the time frames necessary to come up with it?


Nope, I get it. And I also get it all isn't due at one time either.

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Because if you think there's even a possibility that it could become a problem for them then guess what? YOU'RE AGREEING WITH THE OTHER GUYS!!!


Let me say it again - maybe pause a second between each word for full effect.

I DO NOT THINK THAT IT COULD BECOME A PROBLEM..AT ALL, WHATSOEVER.

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What kind of moron would even conceive of the notion that this is an unreasonable concern? Have you not been paying attention to the economy, college tuition or anything else for the last 20 years?


Your explanation to validate concerns on whether or not TM's family can pay for a year of tuition is not based off of their current actions and is not based off of their known financial history or track record, but rather as a microcosm of the nation's and world's economy.

So basically, you have no reason for concern or cause to question their ability, you just feel it is reasonable simply because, well, your 401k isn't doing well and when you were in high school your parents couldn't have been able to afford the initial payment for a semester's tuition with a week's notice.

More power to you bro, but when I drive to work I have concern that a car may run a light and hit me and you have concerns that an F-16 fighter jet on a training mission might mistake your car for an Iranian suicide vehicle.

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Really? You have to throw racism in there with absolutely zero justification when the option for a less than complete understanding of the literally millions of pages of legislation, publications, regulations, forms and policies regarding all forms of financial aid from all sources is out there?


It is my opinion that TM being black is a factor in people questioning his ability. That and a simple lack of knowledge of where he went to high school and a simple understand of the amount of assistance (even in the short term) that can be offered to someone who needs to pay their tution.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12507 posts
Posted on 8/14/12 at 12:36 pm to
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The fact that it is still under heavy consideration by TM and his family is all the evidence you need. If they didn't think it could be handled one way or the other, we would not be in limbo right now
And it is not a done deal at the moment, is it? Has it occurred to you that perhaps one of the reasons it is not yet a done deal could be that they are working on those same options you keep mentioning to make sure they can swing it?
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And I also get it all isn't due at one time either.
Okay, so what's the deadline for applying for an installment plan?
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I DO NOT THINK THAT IT COULD BECOME A PROBLEM..AT ALL, WHATSOEVER.
Okay, so you are just ignorant. Lots of families who once upon a time were able to pay $7k a year in private school tuition are at a later date not able to afford college tuition, even with time to plan and prepare. Medical expenses from serious illnesses, job loss, legal expenses from unrelated legal issues, all sorts of things could make this an issue. Some people just assume nothing will ever go wrong for people they like, and other people hope for that to be the case. The ones who hope for it to be the case still recognize that it may not be.
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Your explanation to validate concerns on whether or not TM's family can pay for a year of tuition is not based off of their current actions and is not based off of their known financial history or track record,
And neither is your assumption that they will automatically be able to cover this expense with no difficulty or question. Paying $7k in private school tuition DOES NOT MEAN THEY CAN AFFORD COLLEGE TUITION NOW. How do you not get that? And you -- like the rest of us -- don't know jack shite about the rest of his family's circumstances. You assume that all is well. That's great. Some of us realize that it might not be, and are hoping for the best for them. What's stupid is that you have some sort of problem with people who hope for the best for Tyrann's family.
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when I drive to work I have concern that a car may run a light and hit me
That's an odd concern for someone to have that doesn't recognize potential concerns like financial downturn, family illnesses or surprise expenses. But, whatever floats your boat.

Just a question, but when people who've just heard that their friend was involved in a car accident say, "gosh, I hope they weren't injured," do you bitch at them and call them racist just because they haven't heard any specific notification that their friends were injured? Do you just have a pet peeve about people expressing concern for others who have just suffered an unexpected misfortune?

Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54155 posts
Posted on 8/14/12 at 12:49 pm to
Hopefully, my 5 minutes of research can end this conversation:

Here ( LINK) is the current fee schedule at LSU. Keeping in mind these are semester fees (not yearly), only the fall semester would be due soon, there would be no requirements for TM to remain a full time student and LSU currently has programs in place to put students on a a payment plan so that all would not have to be due up front..

Eligible student can defer 50 percent of the current semester charges. Payment of 50 percent of current semester charges and any prior account balance must be received by the payment due date. Note: A $15 service charge will be assessed on all deferments. The deferred payment plan may be selected via PAWS or myLSU from the "Defer Payment/Payroll Deduct" application.


In addition to the opportunity to defer 50% of the payment, the ability to pay by credit card, lines of credit and private loans from personal banks or credit unions, LSU also offers an emergency loan for up to $300 for undergraduate students. Other types of financial assistance are here: LINK



So, no, I have no worries whatsoever, and there is no evidence whatsoever, to cause any concern than TM and his family (one of whom is a former King of Zulu and employee of UPS) which paid over $7k a year to send him to St. Aug cannot come up with $350 - $1,750. If after I knew all of this info I STILL had concerns, the fact that after three days of discussing and weighing options, TM and his family are still actively discussing attending LSU and paying tuition would erase my doubt.

But if you want to worry about what might be, for no reason at all, go ahead.

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