re: Really hate dealing with car dealerships!

great advice throughout MT history dealing w/ cars. I bought back in April. I did most of what you said, except probably the biggest no no in the past (gave them my range). This time, I told them my price depended on the right car.

They did know up front that I was paying cash, was looking for a luxury car, and didn't have a trade in.

Anyways, long story short, I ended up getting almost 3k off of the sticker price b/c I played the quiet game most of the day and was non-reactionary to any price they put in front of me until it got to go time.

Another thing I would add is to shop at the end of the month. Car salesmen and dealers have numbers they need to hit by the end of the month. The guy that sold me mine needed one more sale to make senior sales that month and didn't care what it took to make the deal. I closed at 6PM the last day of the month he was working.