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re: Question for those supporting the Death Penalty for Penn State
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:11 pm to Sober Garcia
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:11 pm to Sober Garcia
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People keep digging for a scandal just so they can keep overdramatizing it.
Are you implying that there is no scandal here?
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Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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Are you implying that there is no scandal here?
of course not, covering for a pedo so he can rape young boys for decades in the football facility because you're afraid it will hurt the PSU FB program isnt a scandal.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:15 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Sober Garcia
You're not a very good troll.
it's gamecock alum up to his old tricks again
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:15 pm to Sober Garcia
quote:they knew incidents happened in 1998 and 2001, im guessing a whole lot more, and never stopped him. sandusky was seen in the penn state weight room a week before news of the scandal hit last november. i dont think they were asking him to use their facilities, but it sure as shite didnt tell him not to
Lol you think that the PSU Board of Trustees, President, Athletic Director and Joe Paterno were encouraging Sandusky to use the football facilities of to molest boys?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:16 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Along with athletes at Penn State that clearly had nothing to do anything.
stupid point in your argument. Doesn't this happen often when teams are put on probation?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:19 pm to Sober Garcia
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You really are a frigging idiot.
Try reading the letter that Emmert sent to Penn St, especially the part about the NCAA constitution containing principles "regarding institutional control, and responsibility, as well as ETHICAL CONDUCT" then get back to me about learning something.
Since you are probably to stupid to find it I have provided a LINK
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They govern the rules of play and player conduct for sports. A former coach molesting young boys is not now nor has it ever been in their jurisdiction. They have no card to play here. It's a legal matter outside of their control as well it should be.
You really are a frigging idiot. Try reading the letter that Emmert sent to Penn St, especially the part about the NCAA constitution containing principles "regarding institutional control, and responsibility, as well as ETHICAL CONDUCT" then get back to me about learning something.
Since you are probably to stupid to find it I have provided a LINK
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:21 pm to ptra
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Since you are probably to stupid to find it I have provided a LINK
never fricking fales. (obvious intentional error is obvious)
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:21 pm to Sophandros
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I know I am. And I know that H-Town and I discussed this with another group of posters in an earlier PSU thread.
Then how do you punish the program without involving kids that weren't involved in the scandal?
The point is there is no easy way around it and the way the current system is set up someone is going to get hurt (current students, athletes not involved, etc). You don't just avoid punishing the program all together because the system isn't perfect.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Then how do you punish the program without involving kids that weren't involved in the scandal?
allow players to transfer without loss of eligibility.
problem solved. Theyve done it before.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
could let all current PSU football playing gentlemen transfer without any restrictions if they want.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:24 pm to LNCHBOX
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Are you implying that there is no scandal here?
If by "scandal" you mean the media has taken a hold of a simple open and shut case and blown it up to be more than than and trying to exploit the details of the case for their benefit while continue to dig for more dirt to milk it even further for their own benefit, then yeah sure there's a scandal.
Kind of reminds me of the Casey Anthony/George Zimmerman stuff. Rather than reporting straight to the facts, people are letting their feelings and their opinions of what did happen and what they THINK happen cloud what the facts are. Everyone wants to get the jump on the latest "hot" story or scandal or big news event that they lose any sense of focus and understanding of the big picture. It marks one of the worst trends in our society over the last few decades. We continue to abandon logic and reason in big news stories/case and allow our feelings and emotions to take over more and more for far too long.
It's a damn shame to, because the only victims of this case - the boys who were molested/raped - have to keep hearing about it at every turn, rather than report the facts and then move on until more facts come along. I seriously doubt any of them truly want to see Penn State's athletic department punished for this when the athletic department and the current student-athletes had nothing to do with the crimes committed against them or the cover up either.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:24 pm to Elleshoe
Send me your email Elleshoe so I can have my posts checked by you before I post. It will make your life a little easier when someone mistakenly the word to incorrectly.
Wow, f'ed it up again. You better hurry.
Wow, f'ed it up again. You better hurry.
This post was edited on 7/12/12 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:25 pm to ptra
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Send me your email Elleshoe so I can have my posts checked by you before I post. It will make your life a little easier when someone mistakenly the word to incorrectly.
Well, when you're calling someone stupid you should probably have your own post in order. That's all I meant. Simmer down.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:27 pm to Sober Garcia
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I seriously doubt any of them truly want to see Penn State's athletic department punished for this when the athletic department
So who makes up the athletic dept if it isn't head coaches, ADs, and other officials in the AD?
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:28 pm to Elleshoe
Not mad just looking for a little help.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:29 pm to ptra
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ptra
Lol he mad.
The simple reality is, no one in the athletic department today had anything to do with the molestations/rapes/whatever or their cover-up (that we know of) so there is no reason for the NCAA to step in. Again, what Sandusky did was despicable. The cover-up was despicable. However, the NCAA has no authority over any of that.
Like I've said several times, people are abandoning logic and reason for their emotions and feelings. This is their thought process: ZOMG FORMER COACHES MOLESTED YOUNG BOYZ AND TEH FORMAH HEED CORCH COVERED IT UPP!!! NUKE THERE FOOOOTBAL PROGAM FRUM OREBITS!!!
Damn shame.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:30 pm to Sober Garcia
quote:what would you suggest be done?
Damn shame.
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:31 pm to CptBengal
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allow players to transfer without loss of eligibility.
problem solved. Theyve done it before.
What about administrators with the AD department that weren't involved? Current non-athletes who have put money into the program for years supporting the team?
I'm just saying there will always be someone that gets hurt in the process so you can't use that as an excuse to not punish PSU under the current system to if it falls under their jurisdiction (and I believe it does).
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:33 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I'm just saying there will always be someone that gets hurt in the process so you can't use that as an excuse to not punish PSU under the current system to if it falls under their jurisdiction (and I believe it does).
I think you and Cpt are on the same page if I'm reading his posts right
Posted on 7/12/12 at 4:34 pm to BluegrassBelle
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What about administrators with the AD department that weren't involved?
This may come as a shock, but PSU has more sports than FB.
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Current non-athletes who have put money into the program for years supporting the team?
if you invest in a business, say Enron or lieman Brothers, that goes bankrupt...should you get your money back?
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