re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012

Yeah, I got ya. I was just correcting myself

That fight would pretty awesome.

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Gotenks and Super Buu in the time chamber 

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Ehh it was okay.

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Vegeta attacks Cell

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That's a badass scene. Shite got so real, and I was filled with emotions as a little kid watching this for the first time.

listening to all this, im starting to think Namek might have been better than the cell saga. cell saga always seemed like the no brainer best saga.

but Namek everyone was still pretty weak. Vegeta was outclassed, along with most of the main fighters. Vegeta was still seen as a villain but a necessary evil.

They faced countless attacks to which they were scared and literally fighting above their grade by a large margin. not to mention Frieza was probably the last "true" villain of the series.

shite, this is a lot closer than i thought.

1. Namek
2. Artificial Humans
3. Saiyan
4. Buu

I don't like how stupid powerful people started getting after Namek. The Buu stuff should've never happened.

I just wish we could have kept track of their power levels.

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I don't like how stupid powerful people started getting after Namek

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i would say after cell. people (at least imo) love it because future trunks is just so bad arse, Vegeta shows off his true pride and power, Goku isnt the hero, Piccolo and Tien have shining moments.

there really are a ton of great moments during that saga.

however, once cell ends things get ridiculous. kid ssjs, goku goes ssj3 not out of desperation but to show off. vegeta kills himself for absolutely nothing. gohan goes mystic but it gets ignored after and makes no difference really. the buu saga just "jumps the shark."

as for that avi, you should look up babe thread rules haha. it violated a lot of the rules on nudity.


eta: they shouldve had balls and left goku dead for way longer. yeah you can have him come back, but only once kid buu appears and all is lost. he came back waaaaay too soon. also wished they didnt turn gohan into a goon.

That's where it should've ended, with Gohan replacing Goku as the hero or whatever. I wouldn't go so far as to lump in the Buu stuff with GT, but it should've never happened.

I wouldnt call Gero a huge curveball since he does have roots to DB. i enjoyed them delving into time travel and like i pointed out, the saga did have some great moments.

i wouldnt go so far as to say Buu shouldve never happened. it just couldve been done soooo much better. dont make trunks and goten ssjs, which wouldnt trivialize it.

another big flaw, imo, is the series completely undercuts every race besides saiyans. that really limits your characters and your stories. instead of Vegeta going Majin, what if they boosted a different character (maybe Yamacha) who was once important but fell by the wayside. Yamacha would have reason to go to the darkside with Vegeta stealing bulma and how worthless he had become.

Buu couldve gone in so many better directions. idk what the fan outcry was like at the time, but maybe people just wanted classic Goku vs villain stories that just dont hold up all that well.

the Nameks were worthless during that saga. The series did a horrible job of keeping Piccolo relevant. He couldve very easily been another hero to lean on and had be a threat, but he really fell into the background quickly after frieza.

i understand the Saiyans are #1. thats fine. but you need something else to sustain story. this is why we got 7yr old ssjs, because they needed more relevant characters and it could only be saiyans at that point.

this also goes against their own history. frieza AND his henchmen looked down on the saiyans as a race. there were once a large number of races that were stronger than the saiyans. i have no issue with saiyans being #1. it just happened too fast.