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re: Why on earth did Jogi Löw start Podolski?
Posted on 6/29/12 at 6:59 pm to hendersonshands
Posted on 6/29/12 at 6:59 pm to hendersonshands
I appreciate your post and agree with pretty much everything you say.
This is probably right but after the number of "Germany stacked, Italy fricked" posts I've read here along with lists of "top players" that include the entire German NT and reserves without even a mention of a De Rossi, Pirlo or Chiellini, for god's sake, it's not hard to see why.
I'm also not saying that's coming from you and, where it is, I usually take it as humorous banter. Even in yesterday's game thread, I was replying to that arrogant German polar bear and not you. Perhaps, I've read too many posts from people of his ilk.
I do agree completely about the tactical problems for Germany you outline. However, some of that is due to Italy having quality players that created those worries for Low.
Also agree that there's a lot of chance involved when teams are fairly evenly matched. For example, if Badstuber or Hummels had headed in the corner instead of Italy clearing it which led to the break where Montolivo found Balotelli then Prandelli would likely have been criticized for risking too much in not having two of Italy's only tall players defending but instead keeping all the attacking three deep for the counter.
My point is simply that the difference between Italy and Germany's talent in any best 11 they put out isn't so huge. The only gap comes when you consider that Germany have tons of talent right now at attacking wing/mid. However, all those players can't play at once and Italy has just as much quality through the midfield and defense.
It is a point that, when made it before yesterday's match, usually ended up being followed by ten of these
but not today.
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I think you're quick to be sensitive about Italy
This is probably right but after the number of "Germany stacked, Italy fricked" posts I've read here along with lists of "top players" that include the entire German NT and reserves without even a mention of a De Rossi, Pirlo or Chiellini, for god's sake, it's not hard to see why.
I'm also not saying that's coming from you and, where it is, I usually take it as humorous banter. Even in yesterday's game thread, I was replying to that arrogant German polar bear and not you. Perhaps, I've read too many posts from people of his ilk.
I do agree completely about the tactical problems for Germany you outline. However, some of that is due to Italy having quality players that created those worries for Low.
Also agree that there's a lot of chance involved when teams are fairly evenly matched. For example, if Badstuber or Hummels had headed in the corner instead of Italy clearing it which led to the break where Montolivo found Balotelli then Prandelli would likely have been criticized for risking too much in not having two of Italy's only tall players defending but instead keeping all the attacking three deep for the counter.
My point is simply that the difference between Italy and Germany's talent in any best 11 they put out isn't so huge. The only gap comes when you consider that Germany have tons of talent right now at attacking wing/mid. However, all those players can't play at once and Italy has just as much quality through the midfield and defense.
It is a point that, when made it before yesterday's match, usually ended up being followed by ten of these
but not today.
Posted on 6/29/12 at 7:15 pm to wm72
The beauty of this board is that you and I can have this debate without calling each other idiots and telling each other to commit suicide.
Fwiw I do think Germany is one of the top 2 most talented teams in the world but they are very very young still. I think they'll develop an identity eventually. I just hope it's before 2014
Fwiw I do think Germany is one of the top 2 most talented teams in the world but they are very very young still. I think they'll develop an identity eventually. I just hope it's before 2014
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