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re: BCS has achieved consensus on 4-team seeded playoff.

Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:48 am to
Polls aren't objective. They are made with subjective biases. Why don't we just take teams as they are ranked in the RPI? The BCS poll is incredibly subjective, as 2/3 of it is an opinion poll. It is no accurate gauge of quality.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:58 am to
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Polls aren't objective. They are made with subjective biases. Why don't we just take teams as they are ranked in the RPI? The BCS poll is incredibly subjective, as 2/3 of it is an opinion poll. It is no accurate gauge of quality.


I agree with that for the larger part

If they are really going to do this committee thing then I'd need to hear what their criteria are before I passed more judgement.

If it is going to be about picking the "best team" well then that strikes me as just another opinion poll where we listen to people rationalize their favorite teams deserving of a mulligan. If they were to place an emphasis on respecting the importance of the regular season results then this could be a great thing for college football. Because the biggest risk facing cfb with playoffs is the risk of making cfb just another sport
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25919 posts
Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:14 am to
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Polls aren't objective. They are made with subjective biases. Why don't we just take teams as they are ranked in the RPI? The BCS poll is incredibly subjective, as 2/3 of it is an opinion poll. It is no accurate gauge of quality.


Wasn't talking about polls. Was talking about the computer formulas.

ETA: I think there need to be like 10 formulas for determining the strength of each team. Have a bunch of sport experts, writers, statisticians submit their formulas...have some committee pick the best ones. Use the average results of them. The computers may want to incorporate poll results, but that's up the formulaic author.

If it were me, I'd balance the formula to include the following:
25% OOC result and relative strength of OOC opponent per own formula
25% Another embedded formula that incorporates offensive and defensive statistics (redzone efficiency, Turnover ratios, etc)
25% Coaches poll
25% Look at 5 previous years results/strength (this part of the formula basically says "a team that was really good 2 years ago is probably still pretty good this year...or at least has the essential cogs to be talented such as a coach, overall talent level, etc")


This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 10:22 am
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