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re: How meaningful are STARS? Player evaluations
Posted on 6/12/12 at 11:14 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 6/12/12 at 11:14 am to H-Town Tiger
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Certainly some 5 stars will bust and some 3 or 2 stars will become stars, but a higher percentage of 5* are stars than 3's
i've never understood this angle. if you only have 15 five stars and 200 3 stars. then, of course, you will have a higher %. Only 7 have to turn out worth a damn for 50%, where as 100 have to turn out worth a damn for 50%.
I think the stars and rankings are for fans. I think they do the best they can. It's not a exact science for sure.
Au has a n.c. and wasn't in the top 10 for the four years prior to it.
Oregon has been one of the better programs and hasn't been in the top 10 on a consistant basis.
T.C.U. has been one of the better progams, never in the top 15.
texas is a regular top 5 and they haven't been able to produce.
UGA is a consistant top 10 who hasn't finished in the top 10 in a while.
Florida has been top five for a while and hasn't showed the last two seasons.
There are ton's of five star bust from the brown's (bryce and Arthur to al woods, t. toliver, to gilbert, to shepard, to loston and on and on and on.
then you have t.m., to mo, to logan, to Marcell Dareus, rg III, to blackmon, and on and on and on.
accept them for what they are. it's a interesting guide. however, as time go's on, you'll notice they are hit and miss.
louisiana had it's lowest ranked class in many years in 2010. That class, in my opinion, has been the best in many years. It produced tyran m, Reid, Blue, simon, and wing who are regular starters with Wright, welter, porter, set to be future starters, and allen, jacobs probably receiving playing time.
not even considering Travon reed who went out of state.
That's a thorpe winner/heisman finalist, all american punter in wing, all american in Reid, probably a first day selection in the n.f.l. draft in simon.
anyone care to guess who rivals had as the #1 player in the state? Ronnie Vinson. And, none of those guys were "five star".
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/12/12 at 11:49 am to dos crystal
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i've never understood this angle if you only have 15 five stars and 200 3 stars. then, of course, you will have a higher %. Only 7 have to turn out worth a damn for 50%, where as 100 have to turn out worth a damn for 50%.
yes, but if you have 200 3 *'s (and its probably a lot more than that) and only about 30 5 * you will have way more 3 * pan out. That's what the anti-star gazers always point to , this 5 star flopped and this 2 or 3 star became a star, so there fore star rankigns are meaningless. Its the percentage that matters, not the raw number.
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texas is a regular top 5 and they haven't been able to produce
Texas had the #1 class and #1 player in 2002. In 2005 they won the BCS Title. They won 10 games for 9-10 years in a row. They were in the BCS CG in 2009. How is that not producing? You are doing nothing but cherry picking data.
This post was edited on 6/12/12 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 6/12/12 at 12:04 pm to dos crystal
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anyone care to guess who rivals had as the #1 player in the state? Ronnie Vinson
According to this, Vinson was ranked 4th.
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louisiana had it's lowest ranked class in many years in 2010
Where are you getting that from? It wasn't considered as good as 2009 or 2011, but was still a pretty good class. LSU finished ranked 6th on rivals that year. Many of the players you listed: Mathieu, Simon, Ried were all 4 stars, Wing was a 3 and the #5 kicker, all of them were 3*.
Let me ask you a question. do you think Les Miles and Nick Saban are star gazers? Did they both offer Robert Nkimdiche because he is a 5 star, or because they watched the tape and think he will be really good?
For that matter, do you think they signed any of the 5 star flops you mention because they don't know what they are doing or is it because its an inexact science?
Posted on 6/12/12 at 12:06 pm to dos crystal
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Au has a n.c. and wasn't in the top 10 for the four years prior to it.
They had the #4 class in 2010. 2 of their 3 5*'s that year were Newton and Dyer.
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No offense, but it sounds like you are spouting off without bothering to look up any relevant facts.
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