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re: Saints kept ledger, according to "sources"
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:27 pm to kclsufan
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:27 pm to kclsufan
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As for the injured Giant OT, apparently someone on the Saints D grabbed his nuts and yanked them. If that's true, they should be suspended. Definite man law violation there.
Maybe he was on acid and thought it was a snake attacking him?
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Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:41 pm to xXLSUXx
For Cart offs? So what the list is about 1 or two incidents long? Who did we even knock out of a game in the last 3 years?
Posted on 6/1/12 at 7:46 pm to noonan
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Maybe he was on acid and thought it was a snake attacking him?
Well done sir.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:29 pm to xXLSUXx
What's the big deal? Saints have admitted to doing what the NFL alleged.
One of hundred of links to the admittance.
LINK
Punishments have been handed out. It's done. Move on.
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New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis took responsibility for a bounty program in which the National Football League team's players received money for injuring opponents. "We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch," the two men said in a statement sent by the team.
One of hundred of links to the admittance.
LINK
Punishments have been handed out. It's done. Move on.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:47 pm to LSForYou
Ah, but the strawberries! That's where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, and with geometric logic, that a bounty program did exist! And I'd have produced that ledger if Vilma hadn't filed that suit! I-I-I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow players and coaches and!......
This post was edited on 6/1/12 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 6/1/12 at 10:56 pm to LSForYou
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One of hundred of links to the admittance.
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Williams, 53, occa-sionally contributed to the funds himself, the league said. Players were paid $1,500 for a "knockout" in which an opposing player was unable to return to the game, and $1,000 for a "cart-off" in which oppo-nents were carried off the field.
Haven't seen this anywhere else. Do you have a link from a source that doesn't write like a complete fricking retard? Also, although that is supposedly from Payton and Loomis, Williams has said himself that the his letter to the league, which was later released to the press, wasn't even written by him.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:05 pm to THRILLHO
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Do you have a link from a source that doesn't write like a complete fricking retard?
There are hundreds of links. Same quote.
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“We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch. We take full responsibility,” they said.
LINK
LINK
LINK
Surely you all don't think CSP and Loomis are conspiring against their own team too.
What more do you guys want? Fact is the head coach and GM admitted it.
The penalties have been doled out. It's over. The 2012 Super Bowl run is almost upon us. Nothing more to be done. Move on.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:08 pm to LSForYou
And Vitt said they didn't.
And I saw him say that...it wasn't a canned response written by a lawyer.
And I saw him say that...it wasn't a canned response written by a lawyer.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:08 pm to LSForYou
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Surely you all don't think CSP and Loomis are conspiring against their own team too.
Again, a similar letter from GW was denied as actually having been written by him. Also, word is that SP and GW were told that any appeal would be met with extended suspensions.
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What more do you guys want?
The evidence.
Posted on 6/1/12 at 11:16 pm to THRILLHO
Okay, I am convinced. CSP and Loomis are in on the conspiracy with Goodell.
Posted on 6/2/12 at 12:20 am to LSForYou
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Do you have a link from a source that doesn't write like a complete fricking retard?
There are hundreds of links. Same quote.
quote:
“We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch. We take full responsibility,” they said.
LINK
LINK
LINK
Surely you all don't think CSP and Loomis are conspiring against their own team too.
What more do you guys want? Fact is the head coach and GM admitted it.
The penalties have been doled out. It's over. The 2012 Super Bowl run is almost upon us. Nothing more to be done. Move on.
The coaches have only admitted to pay for performance, not pay for injury. Coaches, players, and former players have all denied that there was a pay for injury program which the NFL is accusing the Saints of.
Posted on 6/2/12 at 12:40 am to xXLSUXx
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"There were stupid names for legitimate plays," the person said, referring to the use of the terms "cart-offs" and "whacks." The person said the payments listed "are for big, clean plays," and that plays which were penalized usually resulted in fines.
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Yahoo! Sports first reported that the NFL has the ledger, which describes $1,000 payments for "cart-offs," or hits which left opponents needing help to the sideline. It noted $400 payments for "whacks," or hard hits, and $100 deductions for mental errors.
Looks like there was incentives if a player was helped off the field, which includes cart-offs. What got the saints in bigger trouble was the verbage. They could have done the same things but used nicer words and it wouldn't seem as bad. But the issue is the same as it's always been. Not whether or not the saints did anything wrong. Everyone knows they did. The main problem clear-thinking people have with "bountygate" is that the NFL exaggerated and embellished what really happened, and handed down penalties that FAR outweighed the crime.
Posted on 6/2/12 at 12:49 am to motorbreath
So, payments were made during a Panthers game in which the only person "carted-off" was a Defensive player? Man, that sounds like a shitty bounty system. Everybody gets a trophy!!!
Posted on 6/2/12 at 12:57 am to SaintEB
In that game Will Smith had 2 sacks and the D had 4 fumble recoveries but they only got a bounty bonus because an defensive player got hurt. 
Posted on 6/2/12 at 1:03 am to LSForYou
Listen you frickface, for the 10000000 time they have all admitted to PAY FOR PERFORMANCE. No one has admitted to Pay to Injure. So get your fricking facts straight.
And this ledger bites the dust. Completely false.
And this ledger bites the dust. Completely false.
Posted on 6/2/12 at 1:26 am to Fun Bunch
I don't even blame Payton for lying about it. I'm sure he was thinking, "I've seen what that power hungry maniac has done to people in the past. There's no way I'm fessing up and dealing with that".
I never believed that the penalties would have been less if Payton and co. told goodell everything from the get-go. And I believe Payton knew this too and that's why he lied.
The only reason goodell waited 3 years to hand it down was because he needed the time to dig up dirt.
I never believed that the penalties would have been less if Payton and co. told goodell everything from the get-go. And I believe Payton knew this too and that's why he lied.
The only reason goodell waited 3 years to hand it down was because he needed the time to dig up dirt.
This post was edited on 6/2/12 at 1:29 am
Posted on 6/2/12 at 6:57 am to motorbreath
The fourth paragraph of the article explicitly states that no one was paid to injure another player. It says that in plain English, but some of you refuse to acknowledge that.
ETA: the article I'm referencing is the ESPN article, which cites the same source as Jason Cole saying that no one was paid to injure anyone and that the payments were for legitimate plays, not illegal ones.
ETA: the article I'm referencing is the ESPN article, which cites the same source as Jason Cole saying that no one was paid to injure anyone and that the payments were for legitimate plays, not illegal ones.
This post was edited on 6/2/12 at 8:05 am
Posted on 6/2/12 at 9:23 am to JasonL79
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The coaches have only admitted to pay for performance,
“We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club
Posted on 6/2/12 at 9:39 am to LSForYou
It has since come out that the league has bullied the coaches into saying what they said and accepting their penalties by threatening them with lifetime bans.
So a statement prepared for the coaches by the league is not really valid.
So a statement prepared for the coaches by the league is not really valid.
Posted on 6/2/12 at 9:41 am to LSForYou
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"There was no such thing as a bounty where anyone put up money to hurt another player," said the person, who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing and related litigation is pending. "There were stupid names for legitimate plays," the person said, referring to the use of the terms "cart-offs" and "whacks." The person said the payments listed "are for big, clean plays," and that plays which were penalized usually resulted in fines.
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