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re: I'd like to apologize to the board re: Roman Harper's draft selection
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:07 am to jacks40
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:07 am to jacks40
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The fact that anyone's defense of Mark Barron involves comparing him to Roman Harper is proof using the #7 pick was to high for him
Its not my defense. Your boy brought harper up and is trashing barron's coverage skills like roman's. I provided logic into this discussion. I also compared him to Bama's strongest cover corner drafted in 1st round. Which other strong safety would you like me to make statistical comparisons to?
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Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:07 am to Cajun Revolution
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Worst pick was the Seattle Irvin pick considering he'll only be situational. Maybe on the field for 30% of the snaps. That's ridiculous.
And if he turns into Dwight Freeney?
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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pretty sure winston justice still gets brought up randomly here or there, BRO
guilty
Posted on 4/27/12 at 11:56 am to swamie
DGB does too 
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:15 pm to Chad504boy
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Its not my defense. Your boy brought harper up and is trashing barron's coverage skills like roman's
My "BOY" said if Mark Barron was the #7 pick in the draft that justifies Harper being pick in the 60's
The fact that he has somewhat better stats than a Roman Harper, while playing on a defense that was much more stacked than Harpers, is just proof he went to high.
Compare him to other safeties that went in the top 10 the last 10 years. Also throw in his measurements. Did he have a Laron Landry like combine where scouts were just blown away?
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:17 pm to jacks40
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Compare him to other safeties that went in the top 10 the last 10 years. Also throw in his measurements. Did he have a Laron Landry like combine where scouts were just blown away?
was he the greatest college safety i've ever seen?
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
Nice pics.
And Sean Taylor was among the best at the position.
And Sean Taylor was among the best at the position.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
TRUTH.
Of all the safties taken in the top 15 picks or so over the last decade, and it's a small pool I admit, Taylor was only one that the going into draft deserved to be that high IMO.
Of all the safties taken in the top 15 picks or so over the last decade, and it's a small pool I admit, Taylor was only one that the going into draft deserved to be that high IMO.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:39 pm to jacks40
watching sean taylor play FS for Miami gave me hope in humanity again
Posted on 4/27/12 at 12:43 pm to Chad504boy
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This is dumb bro. he's about as solid of a strong safety as there is.
It was a horrible pick, dude is waaaay over rated.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Mark Barron was third in the entire nation his soph. year in interceptions and and sixth in passes deflected. He obviously blows in coverage and sucks at run support. Why anyone would draft him is beyond me. 
We get it... You hate Roman Harper, Mark Ingram and now for some reason you feel like Bagging on The Bucs pick. No bias to your shitty draft analysis at all.
We get it... You hate Roman Harper, Mark Ingram and now for some reason you feel like Bagging on The Bucs pick. No bias to your shitty draft analysis at all.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 2:49 pm to UPT
Mark Barron Pick 7
Brian Dawkins Pick 61
Ronnie Lott Pick 10
Rod Woodson Pick 10
Lawyer Milloy Pick 36
Rodney Harrison Pick 136
Darren Sharper Pick 60
Sean Taylor Pick 5
Ed Reed Pick 24
Troy Polamalu Pick 16
You sure about Barron at 7?
Brian Dawkins Pick 61
Ronnie Lott Pick 10
Rod Woodson Pick 10
Lawyer Milloy Pick 36
Rodney Harrison Pick 136
Darren Sharper Pick 60
Sean Taylor Pick 5
Ed Reed Pick 24
Troy Polamalu Pick 16
You sure about Barron at 7?
Posted on 4/27/12 at 3:32 pm to LsuSaintsMan
You realize that list has both SS and FSs on it, right?
Posted on 4/27/12 at 3:38 pm to LsuSaintsMan
Barron is pretty good but I don't think he is worth a Top 10 pick. When I caught a few Bama games with some friends last year, they were saying how they thought Saban protected Barron in coverage last year and that allowed him to excel in the box. They could be on to something or they may not now what the hell they are talking about. He did have more interceptions back in 2009 I think. When you are able to pressure the QB like they do though, guess what, you're gonna get some turnovers. You can't compare the defenses that Roman played on and the ones that Barron played on. Barron's situation had him around better talent and better coaching.
This post was edited on 4/27/12 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 4/27/12 at 3:45 pm to LooseCannon22282
Barron was my first Saints mock pick at #24 for 2011. It was before Harper was re-signed and he had not yet declared to return to bama. Hated Claiborne going to Dallas but even more glad he didn't go to TB in our division. Barron is pretty Harper-like in my estimation. Zoomed up boards IMO because of the extreme shortage of solid safeties in this class. In true value looks like a late 1st Rder at best.
Posted on 4/27/12 at 9:02 pm to Jcorye1
quote:Yes the point of the post is to show recent Hall of Fame and all-pro safeties and all of them except one was drafted after Barron in the first round. Therefore, the Bucs overvalued the position of safety and in order to live up to his draft position Barron will have to be a hall of famer!
You realize that list has both SS and FSs on it, right?
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