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re: Disastrous night for the tank

Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:35 am to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:35 am to
So did you go to the games and cheer for the opposing team? Did you wear opposing colors?
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:35 am to
Exactly. No one drafted kwame brown #1 because they figured he was gonna suck
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:36 am to
quote:

People are acting as if a worse record is guaranteeing them something, when it isnt


Sure it is. It guarantees you better odds. It guarantees you better slotting if you don't get a top 3 pick.

Winning at this point was counter-intuitive.

I was at the game last night and enjoyed myself, and it was hard for me to not go crazy over a win.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:37 am to
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So did you go to the games and cheer for the opposing team? Did you wear opposing colors?
frick no

i didnt openly cheer against our team as a matter fact i had to not watch a bunch of games because while i was watching it i couldnt root against us. so many games i just waited and looked at the score and was satisfied if we lost. it made me sad to watch games i hated seeing the discouraging look on our players faces
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Fearthehat0307


there's a large difference between what you are saying and what others on the tank side are saying. if this was like a political scale where left wingers are tankers and right wingers are non-tankers, then you'd be a moderate left winger, while many like Minnesota bleepbleep and jumbeauwhogivesafrick are extreme left wingers.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80770 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Sure it is. It guarantees you better odds. It guarantees you better slotting if you don't get a top 3 pick.

No it doesn't. CLE and SAC could win and therefore is guarantees us nothing.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:45 am to
quote:

there's a large difference between what you are saying and what others on the tank side are saying. if this was like a political scale where left wingers are tankers and right wingers are non-tankers, then you'd be a moderate left winger, while many like Minnesota bleepbleep and jumbeauwhogivesafrick are extreme left wingers.

O I C i didnt read this whole thread i just jumped in i guess like my mom says i jumped all up in the kool-aid and dont know the flavor
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:53 am to
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No it doesn't. CLE and SAC could win and therefore is guarantees us nothing.



You're saying it doesn't guarantee you better ODDS? It does.

It guarantees you better slotting than other teams if you don't win the top 3 pick.

There is no logical reason to win right now. None.
Posted by mjt8364
The Flats
Member since Dec 2009
499 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:55 am to
Isn't the lottery picked behind closed doors?? Stern said it himself we One great player away. Davis is ours already 3,4, or 5!
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:56 am to
quote:

if this was like a political scale where left wingers are tankers and right wingers are non-tankers, then you'd be a moderate left winger
i know you werent thinking of it like this but i am pretty pissed off that you put me on the political left
This post was edited on 4/20/12 at 11:56 am
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:57 am to
quote:

There is no logical reason to win right now. None.


there are tons of logical reasons to win.

fan support, team morale, excitement for next season, etc.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:58 am to
quote:

i know you werent thinking of it like this


oh no, i did it on purpose

i figured you'd like that
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

here are tons of logical reasons to win.

fan support, team morale, excitement for next season, etc.



Nah.

Fans will forget about an end of season win streak in about 2 weeks. That won't have any impact on fan support whatsoever.

You know what is statistically proven to improve ticket sales and fan support WITHOUT QUESTION? A better draft pick? You know what increases the odds of better draft pick? Losing.

Team morale is also irrelevant. New players, a new owner, an offseason together, and a positive training camp will do far more good than any meaningless end of season spurt.

Big picture people. Quit thinking like "fans".
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18851 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:01 pm to
I'm late reading this, but
quote:

You can rationalize all you want, but the fact is last night cost us at least 5-10% to get the best player.

I already told you we still have the 3rd worst record because we have more losses than Sacramento and Cleveland. We could definitely lose out.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40925 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

"fans".


don't root for their team to lose.

I'm done with this, i'm not convincing any tanker, and no tanker is convincing me.

and i've bookmarked this. i will be back to shite all over every tanker down the line.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

oh no, i did it on purpose

i figured you'd like that
















Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Member since May 2008
4596 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

i cheered for our team i think for the first 5 or 6 games before i realized how terrible we were going to be if gordon remained injured thats when i grabbed the wheel and started driving


Exactly my timeframe as well.
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18851 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:16 pm to
Looking at the schedule, I hope we rest Gordon and lose out. We play GS and they're blatantly tanking so we still may win that one, but Sacramento has a game left against Charlotte and Cleveland against Washington. Those are almost guaranteed wins so if we lose our last 3 and they win just one of theirs then we will be fine.
This post was edited on 4/20/12 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115736 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

don't root for their team to lose.

I'm done with this, i'm not convincing any tanker, and no tanker is convincing me.

and i've bookmarked this. i will be back to shite all over every tanker down the line.



Sure they do. True fans that have the use of logic on their side.

I was at the game. In the moment, I wasn't cheering for them to lose. During the course of a game, I don't cheer for them to lose.

But the logical thing for them to do is lose. Wanting them to win isn't logical at all.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80770 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

You're saying it doesn't guarantee you better ODDS? It does.
no it doesn't. Even with a win last night, we can still secure the 3rd worst overall if CLE and SaC win, therefore it isn't garaunteeing anything.
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