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re: Can you call yourself a music fan if
Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:50 pm to CottonWasKing
Posted on 4/11/12 at 9:50 pm to CottonWasKing
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take a deeper knowledge, respect and taste in various kinds of music to actually call yourself a music fan
I have to say this. Just following the pop music trend has no originality or indications of a true fan IMO. You maybe be a fan of pop trend music but it's makes me think you just follow the crowd. That's what I take from your question.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:21 pm to CottonWasKing
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White Denim
fricking awesome band
Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:23 pm to CottonWasKing
You're still a music fan. You're just a fan of shitty music.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:25 pm to CottonWasKing
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I consider the never ending search for new and personally pleasing music to be a criteria.
its endeavor of mine
been diggin this Purity Ring
Posted on 4/11/12 at 10:39 pm to CottonWasKing
There's always a hierarchy. People who listen to 1950s, 60s, 70s or around then seem to think they have superior taste in music to a person who only listens to music produced in the last ten years. I think the broader the musical time range you know well, the bigger a fan you are. So I guess my answer is if you listen to any sort of music and enjoy it, you are a music fan.
IMO, the best place to find truly great music is to go through church hymnals because in them, you have time tested classics that are more than just classical pieces. Classical meets popular in them, because in order for those songs to have remained in use for so long requires something special. Very few songs from the 20th century will be known in two centuries. One of those, I'm predicting now, will be the tune Edelweiss with a variety of lyrics set to it.
IMO, the best place to find truly great music is to go through church hymnals because in them, you have time tested classics that are more than just classical pieces. Classical meets popular in them, because in order for those songs to have remained in use for so long requires something special. Very few songs from the 20th century will be known in two centuries. One of those, I'm predicting now, will be the tune Edelweiss with a variety of lyrics set to it.
Posted on 4/11/12 at 11:27 pm to rutiger
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I think anybody who "listens" to music can be called a music fan, even if they only listen to shitty music.
Absolutely
People can totally be music fans who like shitty music
Posted on 4/11/12 at 11:47 pm to CottonWasKing
It's hard for me to consider current pop music "music," so I think it does take more knowledge, respect and taste in various kinds of music in order to be considered a music connoisseur. However, I think "fan" can be applied to almost anyone.
I liken it to this: if I never try various kinds of food but only try junk food. I can still consider myself a fan of food. But I only know about this one kind of food...which is really shitty food. So I'm not a connoisseur. In the food world, there seems to be a sort of consensus on what "good" food is and what "junk" food is. Same with music.
I think those of us who dig deeper and sample all kinds of music end up liking somewhat similar music. This shouldn't come as a surprise, because we have found the best after sampling it all. I'm not making sense but I know what I'm saying.
I liken it to this: if I never try various kinds of food but only try junk food. I can still consider myself a fan of food. But I only know about this one kind of food...which is really shitty food. So I'm not a connoisseur. In the food world, there seems to be a sort of consensus on what "good" food is and what "junk" food is. Same with music.
I think those of us who dig deeper and sample all kinds of music end up liking somewhat similar music. This shouldn't come as a surprise, because we have found the best after sampling it all. I'm not making sense but I know what I'm saying.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:38 am to CottonWasKing
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You just follow the current pop music trends?
They consider themselves music fans, I don't have any reason to doubt them just because it's something I doubt I care for.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:44 am to CottonWasKing
There are corporate music brainwashed fans, then real music fans.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 6:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
What's pop music?
To me, pop music is anything made in the last 100 years that does not use a full orchestra or organ.
To me, pop music is anything made in the last 100 years that does not use a full orchestra or organ.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 7:00 am to When in Rome
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wheninrome
No I understood you perfectly
Posted on 4/12/12 at 7:01 am to CottonWasKing
My favorite song is Bohemian Rhapsody, I've sold 4 pop songs to Disney this year. I follow trends like a mofo, because its a great outlet and second income, also allows me to make records that appeal to me. Currently working on an comtemporary traditional Irish album, a 90's Letters to Cleo/Veruca Salt album, and a solo artist with a Snow Patrol/Keane style. I have a country smash in the hands of a very well known artist's management. I've also co produced a track for a hip hop album.
That said, there are styles of music that I absolutely find nothing good about that others love. I'm sure others feel the same about mine.
I call both music fans. You can call me whatever you want.
That said, there are styles of music that I absolutely find nothing good about that others love. I'm sure others feel the same about mine.
I call both music fans. You can call me whatever you want.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:19 am to When in Rome
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I liken it to this: if I never try various kinds of food but only try junk food. I can still consider myself a fan of food. But I only know about this one kind of food...which is really shitty food. So I'm not a connoisseur. In the food world, there seems to be a sort of consensus on what "good" food is and what "junk" food is. Same with music.
Great analogy. Sure, they are fans, they just aren't aural gourmands, to quote CBGB's sign.
Though I will make a distinction between music fans and fans of popu culture or celebrity. I don't care about celebrity at all, and that is a huge appeal in a lot of pop acts. People are fans of this, but it has little to do with the music, honestly.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 9:31 am to CottonWasKing
I think it's a little pretentious to think that just because someone doesn't listen to a large variety of music that they aren't music fans. whether you like it or not shitty music is still music. I'm under the idea that who am I to judge one's musical tastes, even though I still do.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:20 am to MontanaMax
My only thing is I would think a true music fan would eventually venture further than just top 40 radio. There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking it but wouldn't a person who truly loves music dig deeper?
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:24 am to CottonWasKing
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CottonWasKing
bad arse avatar, btw
Posted on 4/12/12 at 12:44 pm to CottonWasKing
I hate most rap and pop music, but there are some I like. I'll give pretty much anything a shot, I just prefer blues/rock music. I also hate most of the bands on rock radio stations (Nickelback, three days grace, hinder, etc.) awful. I can not go a day without music and playing music. The true love for it makes yourself a music fan.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 12:50 pm to CottonWasKing
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No instruments
Has no bearing on the definition of music.
A computer can be just as powerful of an instrument as a guitar.
True. Grinnin in your face by Son House is a cappella with off beat tapping, yet that song gets me every time.
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