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Posted on 4/2/12 at 3:30 am to auyushu
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So, what did everyone think of the first episode in book terms? I personally thought Melisandre, Stannis, and Davos look pretty awesome and cast well so far. I didn't like how the Cressen versus Mel posionfest went down, which was really my only complaint with the episode. I liked in the book how She gave Cressen a chance to spill the wine and save himself, and how she drank the wine first. But otherwise she was perfect as the creepy and powerful Meilsandre.
I thought Headey was much better at being Cersei in this episode than she was at any point last season. The scene with Littlefinger was good stuff.
The one thing with this season that I'm curious to see is what they will do with Bran's storyline and with Theon, since they haven't cast the Reeds. That makes me think they will save most of that storyline for the beginning of next season, since there is no real way they can move Bran north without them. It's not like Bran and Hodor are just going to wander off on their own.
The fifth episode is called The Ghost of Harrenhal, so I'm guessing Arya's section will be condensed a great deal until she reaches Harrenhal (which is logical since her parts would be the easiest to cut stuff out of until then anyway, since it's mainly travelogue).
I read somewhere that someone speculated that they were going to cut the Reeds out of the series. Yes, they have an important role, but they can probably be removed if they use Bran's dreams and Osha as a guide. They could make Osha a greenseer if they wanted.. I know people would get mad, but there are so many characters in these damn books.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 3:36 am to jagwareagle
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I read somewhere that someone speculated that they were going to cut the Reeds out of the series. Yes, they have an important role, but they can probably be removed if they use Bran's dreams and Osha as a guide. They could make Osha a greenseer if they wanted.. I know people would get mad, but there are so many characters in these damn books.
Osha will be rather important in another way for book 6, and not with Bran. It would be pretty stupid to make her the greenseer, just to leave two characters out of the series. Not to mention Howland Reed is the only person still alive who even knows Jon's true heritage. Also, they haven't cast Ramsay Bolton either, and they couldn't possibly leave him out of the series. I think it more likely they save some of Bran's storyline for season three, since he's barely in ASOS at all.
This post was edited on 4/2/12 at 3:54 am
Posted on 4/2/12 at 4:15 am to auyushu
I agree with that.
However, how are they going to add the Reeds later?
The Sack happens this go round.
However, how are they going to add the Reeds later?
The Sack happens this go round.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 4:19 am to Siderophore
They could have them meet up outside and guide him the rest of the way I suppose, Jojen having a dream or whatnot. I don't see how they can have the sack without Ramsay though, that would just be wacky. They could leave out the Reeds and Bolton, but it will completely screw the story down the line and force them to make up a ton of extra scenes to write in a different direction. Just doesn't make much sense to me. I think they will adjust Bran from the book simply because he has only one book scene in what will be seasons 3 and 4, so I guess we'll see.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 7:46 am to auyushu
I'm currently re-reading CoK and I'm about 200 pages in. Maybe I forgot it in the first read and just haven't gotten to it, but do they go into detail about Cersei having the Gold Cloaks kill all the bastards? Or was this just added for the show? They definitely mentioned Alar Deem killing the babe (although the show just went ahead and had Slynt do it). But I don't remember them mentioning this mass killing.
I thought the show did a great job following the book and cutting things short where necessary. For instance, they were able to show how much Stannis really doesn't give a shite about his wife just by his walkoff from the pyres. He sort of just goes "oh yeah, come on, bitch". I thought that was great.
I thought one changeup was odd. In the book, Robb wanted Cat to go home while Cat wanted to stay with her dying father then eventually went to Bitterbridge. In the show, they completely changed it around.
I thought the show did a great job following the book and cutting things short where necessary. For instance, they were able to show how much Stannis really doesn't give a shite about his wife just by his walkoff from the pyres. He sort of just goes "oh yeah, come on, bitch". I thought that was great.
I thought one changeup was odd. In the book, Robb wanted Cat to go home while Cat wanted to stay with her dying father then eventually went to Bitterbridge. In the show, they completely changed it around.
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Posted on 4/2/12 at 7:54 am to DestrehanTiger
Im so pumped for Renly's tourney and the shade
Posted on 4/2/12 at 8:09 am to CottonWasKing
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Im so pumped for Renly's tourney and the shade
When they showed the scenes of season 2 and showed Davos and Mel in the boat under Storms End, I got goosebumps.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 8:17 am to DestrehanTiger
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but do they go into detail about Cersei having the Gold Cloaks kill all the bastards
I know she sends people to find and kill Gentry but I'm not sure to what extent they mention the mass killings.
Jamie was a captive pretty much the entire second book so I'm sure they are drawing from the 3rd book for him. They may just escalate Brienne and his escape but to do that they would have to have the whole renly thing occur pretty quickly.
I'm probably most excited for the birthing/shadow/melisandre scene. The previews showed her and Davos on the boat leading up to it.
Also pretty excited for Arya and jaqen hqaar or whatever that dudes name was
Posted on 4/2/12 at 8:24 am to DestrehanTiger
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Robb wanted Cat to go home while Cat wanted to stay with her dying father then eventually went to Bitterbridge. In the show, they completely changed it around.
I don't understand why they changed her character in the first season either. In the books, she convinced Ned to go to King's landing as Hand of the King, but in the series she was doing the opposite. I enjoy the show and I enjoyed the first few books, but changing up needless details like this bothers me for some reason.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:01 am to jagwareagle
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The fifth episode is called The Ghost of Harrenhal, so I'm guessing Arya's section will be condensed a great deal until she reaches Harrenhal (which is logical since her parts would be the easiest to cut stuff out of until then anyway, since it's mainly travelogue).
A lot of stuff happens on the road before Harrenhal. Like when they hold up in that fort. I won't say more than that. I can't wait for that episode.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:11 am to Murtagh
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Like when they hold up in that fort. I won't say more than that.
You can spoil that in this tread. As long as you don't spoil stuff from books 3-5 (as tough as that will be for most of us), you are fine.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:18 am to DestrehanTiger
haha, that's the thing. I don't know where the line stops. Like most people, the books are all blended together. I don't want to say stuff and be like, oh wait, that was another book. Although I think I remember most of the stuff that happened in this book.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:21 am to Murtagh
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haha, that's the thing. I don't know where the line stops. Like most people, the books are all blended together. I don't want to say stuff and be like, oh wait, that was another book. Although I think I remember most of the stuff that happened in this book.
Yeah, I worry about the same thing. Maybe we'll have to start a 3rd thread for people that have read every book :jump2:
Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:21 am to Murtagh
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A lot of stuff happens on the road before Harrenhal. Like when they hold up in that fort. I won't say more than that. I can't wait for that episode.
She makes friends everywhere she goes. I saw this as a sharp contrast to the little snob Sansa being played as a pawn by one faction after another. Arya befriending Jaqen and saving him from the fire is a pretty big deal going forward.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:27 am to shinerfan
Was anyone else surpised at how old Tommen and Myrcella looked? Maybe I missed it in season one, or maybe because they are children, they grew a lot between seasons. I had to think when this young teen looking girl greeted Tyrion.
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Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:45 am to BlacknGold
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im pretty scared of this myself, as im only 300 pages into the 3rd book. i highly doubt they bring anything major over so early though. it would be hard to make the story flow if they get things out of order.
There was one sneak peak that seemed to be a pretty significant event from ASOS. I won't spoil it, but when I saw it last night it caught me off guard.
To me, Dany's storyline is the most interesting in the first 3 books (I'm 1/2 way through ASOS.) I'm interested to see how that show the House of the Undying. That part of ACOK is quite confusing.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:56 am to Antonio Moss
alot of the reason Arya wasnt shown much in the first episode was because the events that happened last season "i already killed one fat boy" are in the beginning of the second book.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:59 am to CE Tiger
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alot of the reason Arya wasnt shown much in the first episode was because the events that happened last season "i already killed one fat boy" are in the beginning of the second book.
That's a good point. I expect the scene at the inn when Yoren scares off the Gold Cloaks and the scene at the holdfast with the fire to occur next episode.
Posted on 4/2/12 at 11:09 am to CE Tiger
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alot of the reason Arya wasnt shown much in the first episode was because the events that happened last season "i already killed one fat boy" are in the beginning of the second book
No, that occurs in AGOT before Ned is executed.
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