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re: Les Miles is a Recruiting Genius
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:04 am to K2LAW
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:04 am to K2LAW
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Well, if we're going to have a pissing contest over who is the best recruiter, why in the world would we not include recruting for special teams???????? Never forget: 5:51
Our punter had a 45yd avg in HS. And Cade Foster regularly kicked it through the endzone in HS. We recruited well and supposedly we have the best #1 FG guy in 2012 class. Our ST/kicking coach must suck. Saban needs to fix that in offseason.
Oh and it was 8:54 not 5:51.
This post was edited on 12/28/11 at 8:05 am
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Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:08 am to bama1959
quote:Bless your heart. Now go away!
bama1959
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:09 am to RhodeIslandRed
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Saban starting pulling in top recruits, but what he did is nothing compared to Miles
Not true at all.
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Miles takes two star players and makes them Heisman Trophy candidates. Miles nails down top national recruits.
So one player is a candidate and all of a sudden you act like it's common.
I think CLM is doing a great job recruiting but FYI Dinardo started it all, Saban elevated the recruiting and CLM has sustained the talent level.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:12 am to bama1959
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Saban recruits his needs as well or better
As he will when he replaces Mack Brown in Texas!!!!
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:12 am to Langston
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You just lost all cred for the second time. You obviously know nothing about our younger classmen.
Have you seen the QB's to come?
Lets see. Russel Sheppard a 5* QB, which is now a WR. Mettzenberger an untested UGA dropout. So, what else? Kiel is cool but it could be yrs before he sees the field. I'm still hoping we steal J. Winston from FSU. Phil Simms gave AJ a run for the money so he doesn't suck. Alex Morris is a 3* but kid has amazing size and #'s. Who is the last decent QB LSU developed? So, at best you guys are even with us. Top line we're LOT better.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:14 am to bama1959
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Oh and it was 8:54 not 5:51.
That's a good one.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:15 am to Langston
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And we run multiple backs becauses we can. You dont bc you cant
Last year we had Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson. And 3 very good backs behind them. If Saban wanted to run multiple backs he would have then. He didn't.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:16 am to bama1959
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Oh and it was 8:54 not 5:51.
I like being on top
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:16 am to Born in BR
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I think TM7 was a 3 star when he was recruited and then bumped to a 4 star when he committed to LSU.
Yep, and Mo Claiborne was a 3 star. Was he a 2 star up until LSU took him? Who needs the fictitious #1 recruiting class title when you are getting these sorts of players who actually hurt your Rivals ranking? I'll take a top 10 class for these types of recruits ANYDAY!
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:18 am to bama1959
Lets end the debate. I say Les Miles has done a great job recruiting and developing talent. But he's not better than Saban. They run different schemes so they need different players. I'll just leave it at that.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:20 am to RhodeIslandRed
Thats funny....I use the same word to describe Master Lester!!!!!
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:20 am to bama1959
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But he's not better than Saban. They run different schemes so they need different players. I'll just leave it at that.
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Lets end the debate.
and Saban is not better than Miles
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:22 am to baytiger
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Miles is the best talent evaluator in the business. If he's recruiting you, you're a good one... frick what the recruiting websites think.
miles is for sure an underrated recruiter, I hope he stays around for a while.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:25 am to bama1959
I think they recruit the same type of athletes. Some people think finishing 1st in recruiting is all that matters. IMO recruiting needs is more important. I think they both do this well but I may have to give CLM the edge for recrutiing kickers.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:40 am to bama1959
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if you consider 2 shitty QB's are better than 1 good one
Yes I would rather have 2 than 1. Same with RB's. Injuries happen.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:46 am to bama1959
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And for "Born in BR" posting that CLM recruits more OL's. I went back and looked. In 2008-2011, LSU has taken 16 OL's and Bama has taken 17 OL's. Bama star rating slightly better (Bama 6 4*, 3 5*, LSU 8 4*, 1 5*). I knew "Born in BR" was FOS. That just shoots your entire cred. Saban recruits his needs as well or better. To knock on his recruiting is crazy.
I was talking about the shortage of offensive lineman LSU had in 2005 and 2006 due to the failure to recruit OL when Saban was at LSU. As far as my being full of shite as you say please read my post again and check your facts before casting aspersions on an objective statement. I respected Saban while he as at LSU but it was common knowledge that he did not recruit with emphasis on positions, but rather on star level.
Having said that I still maintain that Les Miles tends to recruit the best players for needed positions and Saban goes after the best players no matter the position. The latter strategy can leave some positions somewhat thin. How many offensive linemen played for Alabama during the November 5 game? Not many. That is why they appeared gassed late in the fourth quarter and overtime. I distinctly remember the entire starting offensive line for Alabama still playing late in the fourth quarter.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:53 am to bama1959
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Phil Simms gave AJ a run for the money so he doesn't suck. Alex Morris is a 3* but kid has amazing size and #'s. Who is the last decent QB LSU developed? So, at best you guys are even with us. Top line we're LOT better.
AJ sucks pretty hard so that does not say much for Phil Sims. Our current quarterbacks are good enough to whip your arse and also everyone else on our schedule. Our SOS, in case you haven't noticed, was the toughest in the country.
Right now Bama's best resume entry is that they managed to get an overtime loss to LSU. After January 9 Bama can say they were able to lose to LSU in the NC game.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:56 am to RhodeIslandRed
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No other school in America wants that fickle whore.
bahahahaha!
Posted on 12/28/11 at 8:58 am to bama1959
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I suppose you are referring to HB7 as a 2 star. He was a 4* on Rivals. If I recall Saban did have a #1 recruiting class at LSU. Miles hasn't done that yet so I don't think you can call Saban's efforts there nothing. And Bama has been #1 recruiting 3 of last 4 years. Just about every school except LSU has to compete with another major program in their own state. I wouldn't call Les a recruiting genius.
Actually 09 was a top class on some sites but it really doesn't matter. Teams that recruit top 10 on a consistent basis have lots of talent to develop. I give Saban full credit for the current formula at LSU but les is better at finding and developing diamonds in the rough; like mo Claiborne, Tyrann, bennie Logan, etc.
Posted on 12/28/11 at 9:08 am to Langston
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And Bama has been #1 recruiting 3 of last 4 years
So, Les is a better coach because he's winning with lesser talent? Which is it? You really have to pick a side man!
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