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Watched Oregon and Bama games last night

Posted on 12/10/11 at 5:48 am
Posted by tritiger
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 5:48 am
And there really is a different Jarret Lee in both games. JL in Oregon was confident, crisp, stepped up, made plays and directed the game. JL in Bama was obviously scared, tentative with his throws, shuffled his feet and was thinking more about the rush than he was his receivers. It was easy for Bama to get in his head.

Wonder if the pressure of JJ on the sidelines was that much of a distraction, or if the pressure of the Bama game just got to him. Dude's a solid QB, as good as Flynn and better than Mauck, imo. He just shite the bed in the Bama game.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 5:52 am to
I think the difference was the intimidation of Bama. Plus, Lee did fine at first until #30 hit him. That was a very hard hit, delivered late, and should have been flagged. The Bama coaches almost certainly saw from film that Lee was more sensitive to pressure than most QBs. I think they told their front 7 that they'd take the penalty to get a quality hit on him. And it worked. And it'll work again. That's why he's not seeing the field.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Wonder if the pressure of JJ on the sidelines was that much of a distraction, or if the pressure of the Bama game just got to him. Dude's a solid QB, as good as Flynn and better than Mauck, imo. He just shite the bed in the Bama game.


IMO the speed and complexity of the Bama D is just above Lee's capability. Throw in the pressure and force of the hits and he is going to make some big mistakes. He has good tools and can be very successful against average defenses though.

He's not in Flynn's league though...
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20483 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:06 am to
This is not an attack on Lee;

against Oregon I felt he was competent, but not crisp. A number of his completions were to the receiver's back hips, which slowed them down a lot. He had the potential to have a much bigger game than he did.

Against Oregon he faced plenty of 8 man fronts, and was able to exploit man coverage. Bama was able to play a more balanced defense against him, and he looked lost for the most part.

I seriously doubt having JJ available to relieve him made him tense; if anything, FOR THAT GAME, it eased the pressure. He could take a risk or 2 knowing there were options available if he messed up. Against Oregon, it was him or no one.
Posted by RazaBlade
Member since Sep 2004
191 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:37 am to
There was a hit that was put on LEE in bama game that should have been called. I told my wife right after that....he will make mistakes now because he his feeling pressure instead of being calm. A few min later he just throws it right too Alabama guy.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/10/11 at 8:40 am to
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as good as Flynn and better than Mauck


Posted by #1lsufan
South LA
Member since Jan 2004
1884 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:20 am to
Haven't read a thread like this one with so much common sense and great analysis in a long time. The rant has possibilities.

Thanks for the good reads.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:30 am to
Lees ints vs bama went like this.
1st... bad low snap, he picked it up and threw it.. bad decision under pressure.
2nd.. just like GD said.. corner walked up, JL didnt look back over to see he stepped back out right before the snap... poorly thrown ball regardless, howevber it was a bad read Or should I say a no read by JL, that if he'd paid attention he would have never thrown.

If you noticed about JL this season, he likes to throw passes/patterns that makes him throw the ball before a WR makes a cut, he throws the recv cuts and boom the ball is right there.
It's fine if its read properly, which for 99% of the season he has done, but if not.. it can not work out too well.
Posted by LSU77
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
3370 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 9:53 am to
Great Kid, great Tiger, BUT, the kid could never stand pressure, once you knock him down a couple of times, he falls apart.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 10:38 am to
Lee looked great in several games, but Oregon wasn't one.

I'm still scratching my head about all of the love he gets for going 10-22 and 98 yards. Until the last drive, the first half was nearly as bad as the first half against Georgia.
Posted by willeteal
Texarkana
Member since Aug 2010
2245 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:12 am to
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Wonder if the pressure of JJ on the sidelines



on the field


He does not handle it well. That's not saying he hasn't made a few good throws in his college career (Auburn 2008, Bama 2010), but generally when there's pressure he panics, sometimes throwing the ball away when a guy is 10 feet from him. If you watched the Bama game, watch his attempt at tackling Marc Barron on the INT. He essentially used himself as a cape in a bullfight. LSU has a physical team identity and you simply cannot do that and have any credibility as a player. Especially in that kind of game.

quote:

Dude's a solid QB, as good as Flynn


Maybe you'll understand how crazy this is next year when JL is not a solid backup to any NFL QB. Matt Flynn was mobile, delivered under pressure, and threw his body into the mix in big games. I know you want to support Lee, but it's insult to Matt Flynn, a clutch championship performer to say this.

quote:

He just shite the bed in the Bama game.


It wasn't the first time.

JL has some success in the first part of the year because LSU was so unbalances as a run team, and played a bunch of teams that they could dominate on the line, and for the first time, also decided to mix that up with play action. It was great then, but could not have worked against Alabama. JL was also so jittery he couldn't even complete a few 1st down passes off of that game.



This post was edited on 12/10/11 at 11:15 am
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
5614 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Wonder if the pressure of JJ on the sidelines was that much of a distraction


I think this was huge; J Lee "knowing" that JJ was/is the favorite and always having it in the back of his mind that if he slips up, JJ is back in. Happened and happened fast. If JJ had not come back, I think we see a bit of a different J Lee in that game. He may still have gotten knocked around, but knowing that he HAD to get it done might have been a mental difference maker.

JJ was AWFUL in the SEC championship game. He was the QB that we saw most of last year in that game and I was ticked that J Lee wasn't given a chance in the game. Shows where Miles loyalty really lies.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:45 am to
Where do you idiots get this shite. JLee was not a good qb in the Oregon game. He threw for 98 yards. I gues it's true, you see what you wanna see.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53418 posts
Posted on 12/10/11 at 11:45 am to
He played worse bc bama's defense is 100xs better than oregon's. Not because he was scared of getting pulled. If that's the case he doesn't need to be out there anyway.
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