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re: Pass Interference Call v. Auburn
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:37 am to drexyl
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:37 am to drexyl
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I understand THAT was what the officials determined but if the officials determined we had 15 men on the field when we only had 11 I would be irritated about that too.
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They fricked up the call plain and simple.
You and I disagree. And, the SEC agrees with me.
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:40 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Pretty simple call actually.
You and I (and the refs) just disagree.
Defensive PI or Def holding.
Not disputable. Not debatable.
2006 was just horrible.
Very possibly cost us a MNC.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:40 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Correct. However, the db doing the "batting" has to be in position to do it before it reaches the intended receiver.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 7:44 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Correct. However, the db doing the "batting" has to be in position to do it before it reaches the intended receiver.
If you can pull THAT off, you are good to go with your strategy.
I can assure you, that in any football stadium in America (expect Jordan-Hare in 2006), you can't tackle a guy 30 yards down the field, and THEN tip the ball away.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:02 am to Sheep
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I can assure you, that in any football stadium in America (expect Jordan-Hare in 2006), you can't tackle a guy 30 yards down the field, and THEN tip the ball away.
This.
I love the part time refs on this board who will defend officials NO MATTER WHAT. They will even make shite up to try and excuse the officials. Perfect example is this thread.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:10 am to tgrgrd00
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They will even make shite up to try and excuse the officials.
I have a link to the story from the SEC review of the playcall.
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SEC: Officials made right calls in Auburn-LSU game
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - The Southeastern Conference determined that officials made the right decision in reversing a pass interference call on a deflected pass late in the Auburn-LSU game.
SEC coordinator of officials Rogers Redding said Monday the call was correct because the pass was made uncatchable, making the timing of the contact irrelevant.
Auburn defensive back Zach Gilbert was flagged for interfering with receiver Early Doucet deep in its own territory in the 7-3 win over No. 6 LSU. The flag was waved off because officials deemed that Eric Brock's tip of the ball made it uncatchable.
Redding said pass interference can be called if the ball is tipped after the contact occurs, as it appeared to on the play.
However, he said, ``it was more than a tip, it was a deflection of the ball so it made the ball uncatchable. A key part of the pass interference rule is whether or not the pass is uncatchable.''
LINK
It is perfectly fine to disagree with me...or the officials.
But, accusing me of "making shite up" is a bit uncalled for, no?
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:13 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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disagree
This is not a matter of having a difference of opinion.
Simply put...
If contact is made prior to the ball being tipped, it's PI.
Photos prove that the DB was holding (tackling) Doucet prior to any tip. Ergo...PI (or holding, if you prefer).
You (and the referees) are simply incorrect.
Yes, it was 5 years ago, and yes Aubbie won, so who cares.
But the facts are the facts.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:16 am to taf
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If contact is made prior to the ball being tipped, it's PI.
incorrect. Did you not read my quote of Redding?
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Rogers Redding said Monday the call was correct because the pass was made uncatchable, making the timing of the contact irrelevant.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 8:17 am
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:18 am to blackjackjackson
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i do feel the new les-strategy in sec games, is to beat the refs, then the opponents.
When Bama and Auburn pay refs, it only effects us when the game is close. When we're up by 20, the deal is off. The new strategy is to beat their a$s and we don't have to worry about the unexplainable calls.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 8:20 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Redding was/is full of shite. Assuming it was not pass interference (which it was), then IT HAD TO BE DEFENSIVE HOLDING. Absolutely pathetic.
Redding said pass interference can be called if the ball is tipped after the contact occurs, as it appeared to on the play.
The comparative attempts of Slive, Redding, and the SEC to cover up what was so blatant as to appear to even be possible evidence of officiating corruption, was starkly contrasted with the Pac10's actions in their own scandal. There was not one officiating organization outside of Roger Redding's office in agreement with his BS "interpretation" of the rules of football. Not One!
Posted on 10/25/11 at 9:56 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Redding is a chode.
quote: Rogers Redding said Monday the call was correct because the pass was made uncatchable, making the timing of the contact irrelevant.
If its so cut and dry then the rule saying you can tackle a receiver while the ball is in the air as long as it is deflected after said tackle should be easy to find no?
Posted on 10/25/11 at 10:00 am to NC_Tigah
BHP, I understand your position. You're simply stating that the 'official' position of the conference is that the correct call was made.
Like many other posters on this board, I contend that Rogers Redding was doing nothing more than covering his officials asses with that B.S.
If the correct call was made, then why was that crew suspended the next week (if in fact it was, as another poster says they were)?
Thank God, Redding is no longer the head of officiating for the SEC. He was a giant tool of the highest order. I'm not sure Shaw is much better, but at least Redding is gone and that's a start.
It truly sucks that the best football conference is marred by such mediocrity when it comes to officiating.
Like many other posters on this board, I contend that Rogers Redding was doing nothing more than covering his officials asses with that B.S.
If the correct call was made, then why was that crew suspended the next week (if in fact it was, as another poster says they were)?
Thank God, Redding is no longer the head of officiating for the SEC. He was a giant tool of the highest order. I'm not sure Shaw is much better, but at least Redding is gone and that's a start.
It truly sucks that the best football conference is marred by such mediocrity when it comes to officiating.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:30 am to lsufball19
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it just seemed that way to me personally. i could be completely wrong though
there have been a lot of near misses in the almost intercepted category, i hope sabans exotic packages don't sneak up and bite us.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 11:59 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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On the replay, it was nearly identical to the situation with Early Doucet in the 2006 game. This time, though, the refs got it right.
In the 2006 game, the ball was tipped. There is no pass interference after that.
So, it was not identical. The contact may be the same. But, there was no tip this time (BEFORE the contact).
Now, you can argue as to whether or not you agree that the '06 ball was actually tipped. But, THAT was the call and the reason that the pass interference was denied.
First off, people are arguing with you because this is what you said first and you were 100% incorrect, just flat out wrong. Now you have changed the conversation to whether or not the 2006 call was correct or not instead of did the same thing happen. That was 5 years ago, it's been argued a thousand times, and completely on video and in pictures. There's not much more to discuss. The refs made a ridiculous ruling that is pretty unanimously agreed on by any non-Auburn fan. An uncatchable ball must be CLEARLY uncatchable, as per the rule book. This was a pass interference that was called on the field, and a ball that was no more than two yards from the WR that was being held back. If that was the correct ruling, any time a CB "hooks" the WR and knocks the pass down, that wouldn't be pass interference. Any time a DB runs through a WR, as long as he knocked it down pre WR, it wouldn't be PI. And of course, the play that happened just this past saturday would not have been PI. Unless you were watching a completely different game, a DB came and knocked the ball down before it got to Randle who was molested.
PS- you bringing up the ruling of officials that got suspended and a guy who no longer has that job does not help your argument.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 12:09 pm to Jon1798
What makes that game and that call more frustrating is that on an earlier play when AU had the ball, an LSU player made an interception in front of the receiver and interference was called on LSU because the receiver was being mauled by another LSU player.
Very inconsistent at best.
Very inconsistent at best.
Posted on 10/25/11 at 12:30 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
I was at that game and the officiating was horrific at best.
Doucet was mugged BEFORE the ball was tipped.
LaFell was mugged in the endzone (his arms were held down at his side) making him unable to catch a sure touchdown.
And then there was Jacob Hester...
Doucet was mugged BEFORE the ball was tipped.
LaFell was mugged in the endzone (his arms were held down at his side) making him unable to catch a sure touchdown.
And then there was Jacob Hester...
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