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re: aTm / Mizzou fans - Explain to us the tangible benefits of the AAU

Posted on 10/23/11 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by SteelersFan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/23/11 at 11:08 pm to
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I think Duke, UNC, and UVA would be just as well served to find friends on the Senate appropriations committee. Oddly enough, that committee has quite a few SEC graduates that I'm sure funnel money back to our 'inbred yokel' schools. LOL


The 59 AAU receive almost 60% of the U.S. universities research grants and contracts. Duke, NC and Virginia are doing quite well, thank-you. Notre Dame is a good school but it is not one of the top research schools which is what drives AAU membership.

Lets put it this way. AAU membership is to academia what winning the BCS is to college football. Both comes with money and prestige.
This post was edited on 10/23/11 at 11:10 pm
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 12:30 am to
The AAU has very little to do with academic standards at the school and a LOT to do with research dollars. Schools inside a conference tend to share/cooperate on research, and there is SO much more money in research than in athletics. One of the B1G's biggest advantages as far as money goes is the CIC, an enormous cooperative of of the entire conference (and the U of Chicago) that rakes in money for their schools.
Posted by smillerlsu
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/24/11 at 11:40 pm to
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The 59 AAU receive almost 60% of the U.S. universities research grants and contracts.


So, I wanted to see some data on what this AAU percentage of research funding looked like, and see where the rest of the SEC stacked up. So, I started at The Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education, which is who classified schools as Research I, etc. From there I was directed to the National Science Foundation Survey of Research and Development Expenditures at Universities and Colleges, and I got a whole boatload of the data. Below are some observations I thought were interesting, and to me shed some perspective on this discussion, so I thought I would share.

You can stop reading now if you are not interested...

- There are 697 total universities and colleges in the US as of FY2009.
- In FY2009, these universities and colleges spent a total $54,935,457,000 (~$55B) in R&D efforts.
- 339 schools account for 99% of total R&D expenditures at universities and colleges.
- 148 schools account for 90% of total R&D expenditures at universities and colleges.
- Rice, Oregon, and Brandeis (all AAU schools) fall in the lower 10% of total funding, as does Alabama.
- 101 schools account for 80% of total R&D expenditures at universities and colleges.
- The AAU institutions Brown, Tulane, Rice, Oregon, and Brandeis fall in the lower 20% for funding, as do Auburn, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama.

For FY 2009, the 59 AAU institutions accounted for 55% of the total R&D expenditures at universities and colleges. Of these, 22 AAU member institutions account for about half (27% total) of the 55%.

When TAMU joins, it will be the highest funded SEC school, ranked (#20) nationally, followed by Florida (#23), Vanderbilt (#39), and LSU (#43). Missouri (#78) will be the 8th best funded school in the SEC in total R&D funding, also led by Kentucky (#49), Georgia (#55), and Tennessee (#70). The rest are Mississippi State (#90), USCe (#99), Auburn (#114), Arkansas (#128), Mississippi (#140), and Alabama (#201).

Prior to the change in classification, TAMU, Missouri, LSU, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, and Florida were all classified as Research I institutions.

In 2005 the Carnegie Foundation removed the "Research I" nomenclature and modified the classification methodology, instead classifying Doctorate granting Universities as RU/VH (Research Universities / Very High research activity), RU/H (Research Universities / High Research activity), and DRU (Doctoral / Research Universities).

All SEC schools are currently classified as RU/VH institutions with the exception of Alabama, Auburn, and Mississippi, which are all classified as RU/H. (NOTE: UA Birmingham and UA Huntsville are both considered separately from UA Tuscaloosa in the NSF study, and are both classified as RU/VH).

The percentage of total R&D funding (% of $55B) going to SEC schools (plus Mizzou) is:
TAMU - 1.148%
Florida - 1.078%
Vanderbilt - 0.786%
LSU - 0.731%
Kentucky - 0.680%
Georgia - 0.637%
Tennessee - 0.519%
Mizzouri - 0.446%
Mississippi State - 0.395%
USC(e) - 0.340%
Auburn - 0.261%
Arkansas - 0.192%
Mississippi - 0.165%
Alabama - 0.066%

The percentage of total R&D funding (% of $55B) going to the top 20 schools for R&D expenditure is:
Johns Hopkins - 3.379%
Michigan - 1.833%
Wisconsin-Madison - 1.733%
UC San Francisco - 1.725%
UCLA - 1.620%
UCSD - 1.601%
Duke - 1.465%
Washington - 1.416%
Penn State - 1.371%
Minnesota - 1.349%
MIT - 1.340%
Penn - 1.323%
tOSU - 1.304%
Stanford - 1.282%
UC Davis - 1.241%
Cornell - 1.222%
UC Berkeley - 1.188%
Colorado - 1.180%
UNC Chapel Hill - 1.176%
TAMU - 1.148%

And, if it makes any difference, WVU is classified as an RU/H institution, and is ranked (#116) with 0.254% of the total R&D expenditures. Notre Dame is an RU/VH school, ranked (#135) at 0.178% of total R&D expenditures at universities and colleges.

And yes, I know... tl;dr. I don't care, so GFY, DIAF, etc.
This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 8:06 pm
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