When 100,000 people live, every week, and millions via television, radio and internet, focus nearly 100% of their attention for 3 months out of the year to a football team comprised of young men 18-23 - anything like this is going to be scrutinized.

The board admins here do a good job of balancing freedom of expression, with pure rumor-mongering. MANY threads were whacked until more reputable sources picked it up. Pardon the expression, but there is definitely smoke to this fire. What are we supposed to do -NOT talk about it on game week? Not talk about it in the 2 weeks prior to the Bama game?

You are aware this is a college (primarily football) sports message board? This isn't news to you, right Cal?

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We don't know if there was any fricking drug test at all!

Now that's correct. I have been pumping the brakes on that one - we really have no idea - the reporting says "violation of drug policy", but it hasn't been confirmed and may never. Right now - we should remain in the speculation stage and not convict these kids of something they may not have done. Could be curfew, could be academic (though it would have to be very limited to avoid NCAA involvement), could be Twitter (how likely is that), but - there could be other things we're not thinking about.

However - if it were not drugs - someone from the university or Les could say, "This is not drug-related, or there is no indication it is at this time." See? Easy and it doesn't violate anybody's privacy rights. The silence is deafening.

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. Whether it was synthetic ganja or natural.
2. First failed test or 5th failed test.
3. Making the assumption that all of them were caught smoking weed
4. Assuming that all of them failed the same test

Also correct - the more we delve into these topics, the more we're just talking out of our collective arses - that is a fair critique as well.

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-accusing a player
-deriding the coaches
-insulting the whole program.

Also fair - we all need to continue to pump the brakes and allow the system some time and space in which to operate.

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Posted by TheDoc

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Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:02 am to Ace Midnight

Agreed

Delete the espn rumor thread stickied up top

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Posted by CalTiger

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Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:16 am to Ace Midnight

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When 100,000 people live, every week, and millions via television, radio and internet, focus nearly 100% of their attention for 3 months out of the year to a football team comprised of young men 18-23 - anything like this is going to be scrutinized.

The board admins here do a good job of balancing freedom of expression, with pure rumor-mongering. MANY threads were whacked until more reputable sources picked it up. Pardon the expression, but there is definitely smoke to this fire. What are we supposed to do -NOT talk about it on game week? Not talk about it in the 2 weeks prior to the Bama game?

You are aware this is a college (primarily football) sports message board? This isn't news to you, right Cal?

I don't mind the intense scrutiny on the athletes and truth be told they revel in attention (maybe that is why they are prime time sportsmen).

The talk about suspensions and the effect on the team and games is fine for a sports board - but should we not curtail ourselves when it comes to actual accusations being thrown at these players when we don't know the truth?

You seem to agree with the clipping and toning down of the accusations as well.

We can talk about the loss of Mathieu at CB - but why hypothesize on whether it was ganja or cocaine!

Rant about change in secondary play and "woe is us" but that doesn't give the right to castigate Simon on his personal choices - he is paying the price for it from the folks to whom he is accountable.

Yes the Offense has to change and we can play select the RB game now but wondering (both on the Rant and SECr)about the nature of his violent playing and the roots being in drugs is just pure garbage unworthy of anyone let alone targeted at a 20 year old player.