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re: Why was Lee named starting QB over Mettenberger?

Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:38 pm to
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I haven't watched one fall practice, and I already know Mettenberger is better.


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Help me out here...



you need a lot of help with thinking like this
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:39 pm to
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you're an idiot.


Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Next time; when you're displaying your obvious debating skills, you might want to capitalize the first letter of the sentence used to call the other person an idiot.



Looking I'm not saying Lee is great, or Lee is terrible. I am saying he is unpredictable, but provides a boost to the passing game.
Posted by TexanPete
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:43 pm to
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If he has to hand off the ball, he magically starts sucking as a QB? I forgot when having a running game actually hurt a quarterback.


It's an anomaly, sure, but it fits. When you look at the final drives of the Tenn and Fla games, he thrived in the "pass only" situation (granted he did have four downs to work with). However, if you look at his play earlier in those two games, or his play in the Auburn game, when he had to mix the run with the pass, he was ineffective at best.
Posted by jtran1988
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:45 pm to
You're an idiot.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:45 pm to
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It's an anomaly, sure, but it fits. When you look at the final drives of the Tenn and Fla games, he thrived in the "pass only" situation (granted he did have four downs to work with). However, if you look at his play earlier in those two games, or his play in the Auburn game, when he had to mix the run with the pass, he was ineffective at best.


The wonders of small sample sizes.
Posted by TexanPete
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:47 pm to
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The wonders of small sample sizes.


Look at his work as a whole, if you want. Either way you slice it, he's a below average QB.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:49 pm to
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It's an anomaly, sure, but it fits. When you look at the final drives of the Tenn and Fla games, he thrived in the "pass only" situation (granted he did have four downs to work with). However, if you look at his play earlier in those two games, or his play in the Auburn game, when he had to mix the run with the pass, he was ineffective at b


Perhaps that was a result of him playing from the bench and having a little rust early in the games? Perhaps he was given a set of bad play calls that didn't work early in the game. Perhaps a receiver dropped a pass or someone missed a block.

The fact that Lee is a good passer should not change when he has to hand off. Its not like he actually has to do anything on rushing plays other than give the football to someone else and watch them.

as others have said: you are an idiot.
Posted by Walkontiger
Costa Rica
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:51 pm to
I haven't watched one fall practice, and I already know Mettenberger is better

This is the deal. JJ would have been our best option. Period. Why?

JL is lights out with a green jersey on. Something happens when it goes live. Guts, nerves, heart? I don't know. I do know he is agood kid and is our second best option. Why?

Mett is still learning. He will be a great QB for us IMO. Anyone know any players? Ask them what happened during the 2 min drill at the last scrimmage. Gonna be good, but not there yet.

Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:52 pm to
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Look at his work as a whole, if you want. Either way you slice it, he's a below average QB.


perhaps you should hold out jusdgement til mid sept or early oct?

When you say things and try to pass them off as fact based soley on your opinion thats where the term "agenda" is appropriate.
You have an agenda.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:52 pm to
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I haven't watched one fall practice, and I already know Mettenberger is better.


are you using a oiuja board?

are you psychic?



Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:52 pm to
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I haven't watched one fall practice, and I already know Mettenberger is better.


So, hey, do you feel it in your bones?
Posted by Section211
Opelousas, LA
Member since Jan 2011
16 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:53 pm to
Reasons why I think Lee should get the start against Oregon:
1. He played as well or better than Jefferson and Mettenberger in the scrimmages.
2. Fifth year senior that knows the offense.
3. Great attitude and team oriented leader.

Time will tell if Miles was wrong on this.
Posted by WAGnificent1
The Winner's Circle
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:53 pm to
If anything, Lee showed us in his RS Frosh campaign exactly why Mettenberger shouldn't be the starter. What I'm saying is that the reason Lee failed in that season was that he hadn't been given enough time to grasp the offense, hadn't been exposed to SEC defenses and had to expand upon his overall maturation as a D-1 quarterback.
Thus, we have precedent here suggesting NOT to start Mett until he's proven to be capable of running the offense, more talented than Lee or not.
Posted by TexanPete
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:55 pm to
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The fact that Lee is a good passer


His on-field performance proves otherwise.

Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:56 pm to
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Reasons why I think Lee should get the start against Oregon:
1. He played as well or better than Jefferson and Mettenberger in the scrimmages.
2. Fifth year senior that knows the offense.
3. Great attitude and team oriented leader.


4. Knows the game speed of playing against SEC defenses.
5. A known quantity. He may not be great, but we know just how average he is. Mett is still an unknown.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:56 pm to
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His on-field performance proves otherwise.


Por que?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:01 pm to
Some of you people slay me. JJ had what, 2 good games last year, and not a question of him starting or not. Give the guy a break. JJ wasn't much better.
Posted by TexanPete
Texas State University Alum
Member since Feb 2005
3023 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:02 pm to
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Mett is still an unknown.


I'll give you that. But we do know that Lee is a below average QB that fails in just about every opportunity he has been given. I don't care how long he's been at LSU, he doesn't deserve to be a starter. Give Mettenberger the same opportunity Lee was given his freshman year.
Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:03 pm to
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JJ wasn't much better.
There are some folks who cannot see this side of the argument.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71515 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:05 pm to
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There are some folks who cannot see this side of the argument.


I don't get it, half the fanbase is acting like he was Micheal Vick out there, running around and making plays. Hell, all you have to do is watch the West Virginia game, and it all comes flooding back just how bad he usually was.
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