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My Email Response to the Canzano article
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:15 pm
Here's what I wrote to the guy who wrote this article
I think you really have misjudged Les Miles. In 2008 he dismissed Ryan Perriloux, one of the most highly recruited players in history. Perriloux started and won the 2007 SEC Championship game. He was considered a sure starter for the 2008 season, and expectations were very high. But Miles put his foot down and kicked his 5 star All American QB off the team before the season ever began. There were no arrests that led to the decision, but Miles still made the call.
LSU self reported violations last year, and the NCAA said the Tigers were the national model in the way they handled the situation. Read this article to see for yourself: https://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6784149/ncaa-hits-lsu-one-year-probation-recruiting-restrictions
Here's what the NCAA had to say about the situation: "The committee really felt that the LSU compliance staff and institution did an excellent job and that they assisted the (NCAA) enforcement staff in the investigation regarding these violations."
What you may have overlooked is the thought that Les Miles doesn't want to make a move on suspending these players until he is sure that it won't affect their legal situation. If Miles suspends them before the police report their findings, the attorney's for the other men involved may use that as evidence against the LSU players. They may say, "These players are obviously guilty, otherwise why would their coach have suspended them?" So, this probably doesn't have anything to do with how Les Miles feels. We have already seen in the past that he can be swift and harsh. This probably has more to do with him wanting to stay out of the legal fray. Once the police decide what they're going to do, Miles will act appropriately. Wait and see.
So, why don't you write anything about Miles' excellent track record of appropriate suspensions and NCAA compliance? If you want to report accurately on the situation, you really have an obligation to tell the whole story.
I think you really have misjudged Les Miles. In 2008 he dismissed Ryan Perriloux, one of the most highly recruited players in history. Perriloux started and won the 2007 SEC Championship game. He was considered a sure starter for the 2008 season, and expectations were very high. But Miles put his foot down and kicked his 5 star All American QB off the team before the season ever began. There were no arrests that led to the decision, but Miles still made the call.
LSU self reported violations last year, and the NCAA said the Tigers were the national model in the way they handled the situation. Read this article to see for yourself: https://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6784149/ncaa-hits-lsu-one-year-probation-recruiting-restrictions
Here's what the NCAA had to say about the situation: "The committee really felt that the LSU compliance staff and institution did an excellent job and that they assisted the (NCAA) enforcement staff in the investigation regarding these violations."
What you may have overlooked is the thought that Les Miles doesn't want to make a move on suspending these players until he is sure that it won't affect their legal situation. If Miles suspends them before the police report their findings, the attorney's for the other men involved may use that as evidence against the LSU players. They may say, "These players are obviously guilty, otherwise why would their coach have suspended them?" So, this probably doesn't have anything to do with how Les Miles feels. We have already seen in the past that he can be swift and harsh. This probably has more to do with him wanting to stay out of the legal fray. Once the police decide what they're going to do, Miles will act appropriately. Wait and see.
So, why don't you write anything about Miles' excellent track record of appropriate suspensions and NCAA compliance? If you want to report accurately on the situation, you really have an obligation to tell the whole story.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:16 pm to tenacious
Good response, but they won't pay attention.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:17 pm to tenacious
Award for most sane poster of the day goes to:
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tenacious
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:17 pm to tenacious
He was trolling and got you.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:17 pm to tenacious
You should have just wrote: JJ hasn't played in a game yet. Do you want him suspended from practice? You are a douchebag.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:17 pm to liquid rabbit
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but they won't pay attention.
Meh. I say there's a good chance he reads it. He probably doesnt get THAT much email
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:17 pm to tenacious
good use of links to prove your point 
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:26 pm to tenacious
Clownzano won't reply if he does he will do something stupid like call you a jerk or say you are clueless as he has done to others
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:42 pm to tenacious
My Response:
It appears your Oregon following, if one can call it that, is rather dissatisfied with your work on the whole. If your writing style, as evidenced by this piece, is to jump to conclusions based on short-sited, narrow-minded, half-effort journalism, I completely understand their dissatisfaction. What I gather is that Miles should be both jury and judge, finding the players guilty based on one sided accusations and half information, and dispense with brutal and immediate punishment because a kid stepped out of line.
Essentially, you are asking Miles to dismiss our country's notions of justice, and replace them with your own. Forget the "innocent until proven guilty" ideological nonsense, and shove the media driven, ill informed notions of justice down the throat of these young men. After all, when has the media ever been wrong or misinformed?
Knowing nothing about you other than this shoddy piece of writing, I ask whether or not you have children? Do you take pride in them? Stand behind them? Dispense varying degrees of discipline based on what they did? Or, do you meet them with an unyielding iron fist, expecting perfection in every single aspect of their lives? These are kids. Jefferson turned 21 today. They are going to screw up. One of the only things we know for sure right now is that they broke curfew, and Miles appropriately ran the entire team into the ground. We also know they were involved in a fight and the most recognizable face there is the one being singled out. For now, all the media has are the one sided stories from the losing side of a bar fight. Conveniently, Les Miles is not a man of integrity if he doesn't dismiss his quarterback or at least suspend him before he plays your ducks. Forget the other side of the story, right? What does it matter if it turns out not to be true?
Now, if or when the allegations turn out to be true, I believe you'll find Miles hangs his oversized hat on integrity. His track record, if you had done any semblance of an investigation, would reveal this to you in a matter of minutes. Miles is a man of integrity. Of the many things that he can and has been criticized for, his integrity and doing things the right way, are not areas where you will find room to poke. The fact that you did so, in what one can only assume is an attempt at quality journalism, is what is laughable.
Innocent until proven guilty...... what's that?
It appears your Oregon following, if one can call it that, is rather dissatisfied with your work on the whole. If your writing style, as evidenced by this piece, is to jump to conclusions based on short-sited, narrow-minded, half-effort journalism, I completely understand their dissatisfaction. What I gather is that Miles should be both jury and judge, finding the players guilty based on one sided accusations and half information, and dispense with brutal and immediate punishment because a kid stepped out of line.
Essentially, you are asking Miles to dismiss our country's notions of justice, and replace them with your own. Forget the "innocent until proven guilty" ideological nonsense, and shove the media driven, ill informed notions of justice down the throat of these young men. After all, when has the media ever been wrong or misinformed?
Knowing nothing about you other than this shoddy piece of writing, I ask whether or not you have children? Do you take pride in them? Stand behind them? Dispense varying degrees of discipline based on what they did? Or, do you meet them with an unyielding iron fist, expecting perfection in every single aspect of their lives? These are kids. Jefferson turned 21 today. They are going to screw up. One of the only things we know for sure right now is that they broke curfew, and Miles appropriately ran the entire team into the ground. We also know they were involved in a fight and the most recognizable face there is the one being singled out. For now, all the media has are the one sided stories from the losing side of a bar fight. Conveniently, Les Miles is not a man of integrity if he doesn't dismiss his quarterback or at least suspend him before he plays your ducks. Forget the other side of the story, right? What does it matter if it turns out not to be true?
Now, if or when the allegations turn out to be true, I believe you'll find Miles hangs his oversized hat on integrity. His track record, if you had done any semblance of an investigation, would reveal this to you in a matter of minutes. Miles is a man of integrity. Of the many things that he can and has been criticized for, his integrity and doing things the right way, are not areas where you will find room to poke. The fact that you did so, in what one can only assume is an attempt at quality journalism, is what is laughable.
Innocent until proven guilty...... what's that?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:55 pm to tenacious
solid, well thought out response. If it's any consolation, we hate him too.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:57 pm to HeadBusta4LSU
Ignore Clownzano - he has no credibility, everyone here hates him. Total shock journalist, who goes out of his way to create controversy. He slammed Seastrunk and put him under a microscope, then when Seastrunk left he got all high and mighty and said Oregon fans didn't do right by Seastrunk and were backstabbers.
And I see why Miles wouldn't suspend anyone at this point. I believe Chip Kelly would, based on past overreactions and the way he runs his program, but they're two different coaches and I respect Miles decision at this point (unless he knows something nobody else knows).
And I see why Miles wouldn't suspend anyone at this point. I believe Chip Kelly would, based on past overreactions and the way he runs his program, but they're two different coaches and I respect Miles decision at this point (unless he knows something nobody else knows).
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:23 pm to 756
I am with camp randell on this one. You took the bait on this one. This dude is garbage. Don't waste your time reading anything he writes.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 9:23 pm to 756
Here's the response I got from the dude: "Perrilloux should have been punished for the earlier incidents but wasn't, remember?"
Periloux was suspended 3 times before he got dismissed from the team. This guy's a dumbass.
Periloux was suspended 3 times before he got dismissed from the team. This guy's a dumbass.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:59 pm to tenacious
I sent a email too. All mine said was "You're Retarted."
Posted on 8/25/11 at 11:44 pm to fightingsaint3
I hope that's not how you spelled retarded.
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