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re: Breaking curfew and setting the record straight
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:05 am to Navytiger74
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:05 am to Navytiger74
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If you were a military officer you'd know how much time you could spend on paperwork if you drew up an article 15/Captain's Mast everytime some seaman/PFC did something stupid.
I'm familiar with the process.
Secondly don't you think your reasoning is what actually contributed to this problem in the first place? Oh it is okay they are college kids simply breaking curfew turns into a few kids breaking curfew. They do it enough times and now more kids are doing it and more keep on coming. This leads to where we are at today. You give them an inch of rope and they take a mile. I am not sure how it is in the Naval world, but you give an E-4 the okay to break the rules he has lost total respect for you as his superior.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:09 am to OH 58D
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Secondly don't you think your reasoning is what actually contributed to this problem in the first place? Oh it is okay they are college kids simply breaking curfew turns into a few kids breaking curfew. They do it enough times and now more kids are doing it and more keep on coming. This leads to where we are at today. You give them an inch of rope and they take a mile. I am not sure how it is in the Naval world, but you give an E-4 the okay to break the rules he has lost total respect for you as his superior.
Oh good grief!!
You drama queens are really over the top today.
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:11 am to OH 58D
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Secondly don't you think your reasoning is what actually contributed to this problem in the first place? Oh it is okay they are college kids simply breaking curfew turns into a few kids breaking curfew. They do it enough times and now more kids are doing it and more keep on coming. This leads to where we are at today. You give them an inch of rope and they take a mile. I am not sure how it is in the Naval world, but you give an E-4 the okay to break the rules he has lost total respect for you as his superior.
Precisely
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:14 am to OH 58D
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I'm familiar with the process.
Secondly don't you think your reasoning is what actually contributed to this problem in the first place? Oh it is okay they are college kids simply breaking curfew turns into a few kids breaking curfew. They do it enough times and now more kids are doing it and more keep on coming. This leads to where we are at today. You give them an inch of rope and they take a mile. I am not sure how it is in the Naval world, but you give an E-4 the okay to break the rules he has lost total respect for you as his superior.
Again, you miss the whole point. I'm not condoning their actions. If someone runs afoul of regs and gets caught, they must and will be punished. Repeat offenders are generally drummed the frick out of the service. I take issue with the fricking (oh my God, they're terrible) outrage over some college kids breaking a 2230 curfew. It's dumb, but they're young men--not robots. I've done it, you've done it, lots of men better than either of us have done it. So can the outrage.
And, once again, I'd like to point out that CFB is not the fricking military. I only brought the military up to say that even an organization that relies wholly upon discipline understands that young men are going to frick things up from time to time. If you're halfway sentient, you know the trouble makers from the kids who made a mistake.
This post was edited on 8/21/11 at 10:17 am
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