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Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:07 pm to TygerTyger
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The average number of rounds until incapacitation was also remarkably similar between calibers. All the common defensive calibers required around 2 rounds on average to incapacitate. Something else to look at here is the question of how fast can the rounds be fired out of each gun.
Assuming the article came from a legitimate source, and I have no reason to doubt it didnt, this is why I carry a 9mm rather than 40 or 45.
I think there was a quote or something that said, accuracy by volume.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:55 pm to CarRamrod
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looks like a pretty credible study.
OK, lets get 15 yards from a shooter, I take a .22 round to the chest. You take a .45 round to the chest. Ive got a lot better chance of living than you
Posted on 6/13/11 at 7:57 pm to Rebman601
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OK, lets get 15 yards from a shooter, I take a .22 round to the chest. You take a .45 round to the chest. Ive got a lot better chance of living than you
Yea. But a .22 round to the chest is alot more deadly than a .45 in the dirt. I am in no way a fan of a .22 for shooting people unless I'm the one getting shot, but I would guess accuracy with a .22 has alot to do with those numbers.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:12 pm to Rebman601
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OK, lets get 15 yards from a shooter, I take a .22 round to the chest. You take a .45 round to the chest. Ive got a lot better chance of living than you
Honestly, this is stupid. I dont think anyone is doubting this. I dont think anyone in this thread has advocated a 22 over the 45.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:28 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:no handgun caliber is more accurate than another in the context of a gun fight.
accuracy with a .22 has alot to do with those numbers
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:33 pm to kengel2
when arguing the lethality of a caliber, accuracy has nothing to do with it IMO
Posted on 6/13/11 at 8:56 pm to Rebman601
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Rebman601
Somebody didn't read the entire article
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Some people will look at this data and say "He's telling us all to carry .22s". That's not true. Although this study showed that the percentage of people stopped with one shot are similar between almost all handgun cartridges, there's more to the story. Take a look at two numbers: the percentage of people who did not stop (no matter how many rounds were fired into them) and the one-shot-stop percentage. The lower caliber rounds (.22, .25, .32) had a failure rate that was roughly double that of the higher caliber rounds. The one-shot-stop percentage(where I considered all hits, anywhere on the body) trended generally higher as the round gets more powerful. This tells us a couple of things...
Posted on 6/13/11 at 9:45 pm to CarRamrod
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Where in my post did I say I don't shoot the .40 often
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Will shoot both, but shoot the 9mm more. Carry the .40 more often though.
So you are agreeing with me, there is no where that I mentioned the frequency of my trips to the range. Glad we could clear that up.
Posted on 6/13/11 at 11:55 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I was actually going off this guys percentage of hits that were fatal. The .22 had one of the highest if not the highest percentage no?
Posted on 6/14/11 at 12:30 pm to Rebman601
The referenced article is interesting, but I don't see there's much need to discuss it in very much detail without knowing the source of the info. Without knowing the source, it's just a matter of "garbage in...garbage out...."
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