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re: Breaking down LSU and Oregon
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:01 pm to LaBR4
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:01 pm to LaBR4
It's fair to say the transitive property doesn't work well in football, but it can be an indicator of success.
The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
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Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:03 pm to CFBfan80
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Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:04 pm to CFBfan80
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The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit
Because the problem was offense, not defense. The team LSU played didn't really have much of an effect on LSUs offense because it was generally so shitty. So playing a better team like Oregon really wouldnt have mattered. And LSUs defense last year could keep them in the game against any team.
LSU had a tendency to play down and up against competition, which is why your argument is invalid.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:04 pm to CFBfan80
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but it can be an indicator of success.
not really.
i know you want to use the stat since it would favor the ducks in a lot of cases, but its pretty damn useless.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:05 pm to CFBfan80
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The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
Each week is different.
LSU played awful against TN...and won luckily.
If we would've played that way against Alabama and Florida....we would have lost both those games.
If LSU and Oregon played at the end of the season...who knows.
It will be a good game in Dallas...there's no reason both teams shouldn't feel confident. Oregon has a lot going....a lot of players back, feeling the swag. LSU feels this is a fresh start with a new OC and a dynamite Defense. Both teams have playmakers.
This post was edited on 6/10/11 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:05 pm to CFBfan80
I think most confidence is you had all that time to get ready for Auburn and could'nt score many points againest a defense that we should be a lot better than. Add to the fact you lose a lot of linemen which is where sec teams tend to have an advantage and most think we should be able to win this one. Also Les tends to coach real well when he has more time to prepare. It won't be a blowout though, I'm guessing 13-17 points difference
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:05 pm to CFBfan80
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We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Not at all. Hasn't Oregon struggled against a far inferior opponent? A team that they should have beaten by 20? That's what happened to us. You guys were up for the game, a non-conference opponent with a point to make. Think about it.
Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
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Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
The same as Auburn.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:08 pm to CFBfan80
How did Oregon handle 5-7 Cal last year? The same Cal team that lost to Nevada by 21 points and to USC by 34 points?I'd say that Cal and Tenn were almost on the same level except Tenn actually played in a bowl game. Again, your logic sucks, try a different angle.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:08 pm to CFBfan80
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If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:22 pm to CFBfan80
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The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Nope not at all. Ever heard of a trap game?
LSU:
Oct 2: Tennessee (W)
Oct 9: @ Florida (W)
Oregon:
Sept 11: @ Tennessee (W)
Sept 18: Portland State (W)
LSU was looking ahead imo, it happens. Kinda surprised no one else has brought it up yet
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:30 pm to CFBfan80
Okay a few quick points. Let's just scratch the common opponents idea. Alabama beat Tennessee like 41-10. LSU beat Alabama. So if we were to play the common opponent angle I guess LSU would beat Oregon because Oregon blew out Tennessee the same way Alabama did. Plus the one thing you left out in comparing was that LSU lost to Auburn on road by one touchdown as opposed to on a neutral site like Oregon played them.
Let's not just say if LSU improves a little on offense but Oregon loses key players on defense which is already their weaker side of the field in the game. That only helps the LSU offense. And an LSU offense that is used to seeing SEC defenses all season.
In the end it should be a good game. It will have the same question the national title game had last year. Will it be an offensive or defensive game?
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Auburn held Oregon's O to 19 points, and LSU's 2011 D will be about twice as better as Auburn's. If LSU can improve its O just a little bit from last season, LSU should beat Oregon.
Let's not just say if LSU improves a little on offense but Oregon loses key players on defense which is already their weaker side of the field in the game. That only helps the LSU offense. And an LSU offense that is used to seeing SEC defenses all season.
In the end it should be a good game. It will have the same question the national title game had last year. Will it be an offensive or defensive game?
Posted on 6/13/11 at 5:19 pm to CFBfan80
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The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
The net yards gained in both games are pretty close, but Tenn gained more on the ground and in the air against Oregon. You edged us out slightly in passing and we had more receiving yards. Despite the score difference, seems like the overall performance was pretty close.
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