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re: Breaking down LSU and Oregon
Posted on 6/10/11 at 10:58 pm to lsu11
Posted on 6/10/11 at 10:58 pm to lsu11
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Lets keep it at 1
Let's give him some slack guys. He didn't flame. And we all know that if any of us had gotten on an Oregon board we would have flamed. Keep posting dude!!! Have tough skin and keep posting. And after the game in September, keep posting! It's all good!!
Posted on 6/10/11 at 10:59 pm to CFBfan80
Here is the thing: LSU takes a 17 point lead and then coasts to victory to win 20-14. We just run up the score.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:00 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Let's give him some slack guys. He didn't flame. And we all know that if any of us had gotten on an Oregon board we would have flamed. Keep posting dude!!! Have tough skin and keep posting. And after the game in September, keep posting! It's all good
You're right... I was going to ask him to keep his posts logical, but I forgot this is The Rant.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:00 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
I agree he didn't flame he just used severly flawed logic.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:01 pm to LaBR4
It's fair to say the transitive property doesn't work well in football, but it can be an indicator of success.
The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:01 pm to CFBfan80
Welcome to the board. This should be the next 20 page thread.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:01 pm to CFBfan80
Oregon lost 3 offensive lineman and is only left with possession receivers. Our secondary is our strength and will be able to take them man-to-man, leaving the ducks trying to run the ball when the OL is not yet up to speed. LSU's D is going to abuse them badly. You'll get some scores on a couple big plays, but apart from that it will be ugly for you.
LSU's OL was young last year and will be better this year. Our new starting RB, Ware is more complete than Ridley ever was. So I expect us to pound it a lot and grind out points. I've heard that you've got decent depth on the DL, but I don't think the skill level is high enough to keep us from averaging at least 4 yards a carry. That steady pounding plus a few play action passes will get LSU plenty of points.
Furthermore, all that hurry up is going to backfire when your offense can't move the ball. It will kill your TOP and leave your D on the field the whole game.
And finally, Auburn and UT were two of our worst games all season. And as near as I can tell, Oregon was one of the worst games for both UT and Auburn. Personally I think Oregon and LSU are roughly equal in strength, but I think LSU takes this one and I don't think it will be as close as most people think.
LSU's OL was young last year and will be better this year. Our new starting RB, Ware is more complete than Ridley ever was. So I expect us to pound it a lot and grind out points. I've heard that you've got decent depth on the DL, but I don't think the skill level is high enough to keep us from averaging at least 4 yards a carry. That steady pounding plus a few play action passes will get LSU plenty of points.
Furthermore, all that hurry up is going to backfire when your offense can't move the ball. It will kill your TOP and leave your D on the field the whole game.
And finally, Auburn and UT were two of our worst games all season. And as near as I can tell, Oregon was one of the worst games for both UT and Auburn. Personally I think Oregon and LSU are roughly equal in strength, but I think LSU takes this one and I don't think it will be as close as most people think.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:02 pm to bisonduck
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Here is the thing: LSU takes a 17 point lead and then coasts to victory to win 20-14. We just run up the score
Against Pac -10-12 opponents. And against bottom dweller SEC opponents. What happened when you played a real SEC team? Just curious?
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:02 pm to CFBfan80
Another pointless stat comparison just for the helluva of it.
Oregon vs Auburn
Oregon Rushing
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
L. James 13 49 3.8 0 14
K. Barner 11 32 2.9 0 9
D. Thomas 8 -6 -0.8 0 5
Team 32 75 2.3 0 14
LSU vs Auburn
LSU Rushing
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
J. Jefferson 16 74 4.6 1 16
S. Ridley 12 37 3.1 0 9
R. Shepard 1 9 9.0 0 9
R. Murphy 2 2 1.0 0 5
S. Ware 1 2 2.0 0 2
M. Ford 2 1 0.5 0 3
J. Lee 3 -10 -3.3 0 2
Team 37 115 3.1 1 16
Oregon vs Auburn
Oregon Rushing
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
L. James 13 49 3.8 0 14
K. Barner 11 32 2.9 0 9
D. Thomas 8 -6 -0.8 0 5
Team 32 75 2.3 0 14
LSU vs Auburn
LSU Rushing
CAR YDS AVG TD LG
J. Jefferson 16 74 4.6 1 16
S. Ridley 12 37 3.1 0 9
R. Shepard 1 9 9.0 0 9
R. Murphy 2 2 1.0 0 5
S. Ware 1 2 2.0 0 2
M. Ford 2 1 0.5 0 3
J. Lee 3 -10 -3.3 0 2
Team 37 115 3.1 1 16
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:03 pm to CFBfan80
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Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:04 pm to CFBfan80
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The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit
Because the problem was offense, not defense. The team LSU played didn't really have much of an effect on LSUs offense because it was generally so shitty. So playing a better team like Oregon really wouldnt have mattered. And LSUs defense last year could keep them in the game against any team.
LSU had a tendency to play down and up against competition, which is why your argument is invalid.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:04 pm to CFBfan80
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but it can be an indicator of success.
not really.
i know you want to use the stat since it would favor the ducks in a lot of cases, but its pretty damn useless.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:05 pm to CFBfan80
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The main thing I'm focused on is how differently we both played Tennessee. If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal. However, there is such a large discrepancy between how we both played. We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
Each week is different.
LSU played awful against TN...and won luckily.
If we would've played that way against Alabama and Florida....we would have lost both those games.
If LSU and Oregon played at the end of the season...who knows.
It will be a good game in Dallas...there's no reason both teams shouldn't feel confident. Oregon has a lot going....a lot of players back, feeling the swag. LSU feels this is a fresh start with a new OC and a dynamite Defense. Both teams have playmakers.
This post was edited on 6/10/11 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:05 pm to CFBfan80
I think most confidence is you had all that time to get ready for Auburn and could'nt score many points againest a defense that we should be a lot better than. Add to the fact you lose a lot of linemen which is where sec teams tend to have an advantage and most think we should be able to win this one. Also Les tends to coach real well when he has more time to prepare. It won't be a blowout though, I'm guessing 13-17 points difference
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:05 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Against Pac -10-12 opponents. And against bottom dweller SEC opponents. What happened when you played a real SEC team? Just curious?
You have to admit it's funny.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:05 pm to CFBfan80
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We handled Tennessee pretty well in their own house and you all struggled in your house. This doesn't really concern you guys, even a little bit?
Not at all. Hasn't Oregon struggled against a far inferior opponent? A team that they should have beaten by 20? That's what happened to us. You guys were up for the game, a non-conference opponent with a point to make. Think about it.
Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
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Also, how do you think LSU would have done against Oregon last year?
The same as Auburn.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:07 pm to CFBfan80
"Fan of: Ohio State, USC, Bama, Oregon, Oklahoma, Texas A&M"
So... bandwagoner?
So... bandwagoner?
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:08 pm to CFBfan80
How did Oregon handle 5-7 Cal last year? The same Cal team that lost to Nevada by 21 points and to USC by 34 points?I'd say that Cal and Tenn were almost on the same level except Tenn actually played in a bowl game. Again, your logic sucks, try a different angle.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:08 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Hasn't Oregon struggled against a far inferior opponent?
Oregon-Cal last year.
17-15 I believe.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:08 pm to CFBfan80
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If Oregon beat Tennessee by 10 or less, I would consider LSU and Oregon equal.
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