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And I used the figure of at least over 100k. I know their were at least that many because that is the figure that Jerry Allen gave to their crews estimate of just that one Alum sponsored rally.

With all due respect to Jerry, estimates of non-neutral observers of crowd sizes are notoriously unreliable. One man's 100,000 is another man's 20k. (Remember the "Million Man March"?)

The bottom line is that Auburn fans were willing to pay more for the tickets than Oregon fans -- that's a fact not in dispute, borne out by the balance of fans in the stadium, since all fans had equal access to tickets on the secondary market.. unless you know something I don't.

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Other Ducks have been simply quoting non biased reporters/ coaches/ or former players. If a reporter for Michigan who has also been to the swamp, the shoe, Death Valley, and Autzen, says nothing comes close to noise as UO, I will take him at his word.

Fair enough, but the problem is that the number of neutral observers -- there I go again -- who have been at both stadiums in similar situations is very small. And yes, it is a fact that the noise on the field is much louder than it is on the stands.

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Therefor size or number of people does not always equal how loud a stadium is. Therefor is indeed NOT MATH!

Nobody would ever accuse Michigan fans of being the "noise equivalent" of LSU fans. Not even Michigan fans. As they say in Ann Arbor, "Down In Front Is Not A Yell". And Michigan Stadium isn't built like either Autzen or TS -- it's a much shallower bowl, has no overhangs or decking to reflect the sound.

I submit to you that if you put 59,950 screaming LSU fans in Autzen, it wouldn't be the same experience as 92,000 screaming LSU fans in TS.

"Louder on the field" in terms of sheer decibel rating? Until we get truly scientific measurements with multiple calibrated sound level meters tended by independent observers, we'll never know.

I've never believed any "decibel level" reports from any stadium. You don't know how the scale is weighted, for one thing.

I won't argue with regards to the overall consistent loudness -- certainly not on defense -- because I haven't been at both stadiums. And neither have you, I gather.

But I recall quotes from Mississippi State players, who were on the field at the first game after the expansion in 2002. And they said the noise wasn't as impressive as they expected. At the time, some of us were attributing this to the expansion itself changing the configuration of the bowl; the noise wasn't hanging like it did in the pre-expansion era. Of course, you won't see these quotes in the Oregon media guide. Not sayin, just sayin.

As for making "friends" for more website hits, oh yeah, that's what I'm about. Busted! I make a bloody fortune off that web site. Google Ads owes me $3.57 so far.