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Michigan & the factions
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:31 am
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:31 am
Michigan has 2 factions:
1) The Bo faction
2) The Carr faction
The Bo faction wanted Harbaugh and the Carr faction would have been OK with the JH hire. Harbaugh was #1 on the list but decided to take the 49's job. No doubt JH would have united the Michigan fan base.
The Carr faction wants Brady Hoke as the new Michigan HC. The last person they want is Les Miles.
Les Miles was never going to leave LSU. He has one of the top jobs in America and his family is very happy. There are a few things Miles would like to change (no threats after an average season) but is still very happy at LSU. His thinking was talking to the Michigan AD would give him a little leverage... even though he knew he would never take the Michigan job.
In addition Miles was being kind to a program & University that he loves. Thus agreeing to talk with David Brandon.
David Brandon never planned to hire Miles. Never. After Jim Harbaugh turned him down his man has always been Brady Hoke.
Brady Hoke isn't the best coach available but will help unite the 2 factions.
The Bo faction isn't thrilled but are ok with the hire.
The Carr faction is giggling like school girls because they are about to get exactly what they want; which is Brady Hoke & more importantly control of the Michigan fooball program.
1) The Bo faction
2) The Carr faction
The Bo faction wanted Harbaugh and the Carr faction would have been OK with the JH hire. Harbaugh was #1 on the list but decided to take the 49's job. No doubt JH would have united the Michigan fan base.
The Carr faction wants Brady Hoke as the new Michigan HC. The last person they want is Les Miles.
Les Miles was never going to leave LSU. He has one of the top jobs in America and his family is very happy. There are a few things Miles would like to change (no threats after an average season) but is still very happy at LSU. His thinking was talking to the Michigan AD would give him a little leverage... even though he knew he would never take the Michigan job.
In addition Miles was being kind to a program & University that he loves. Thus agreeing to talk with David Brandon.
David Brandon never planned to hire Miles. Never. After Jim Harbaugh turned him down his man has always been Brady Hoke.
Brady Hoke isn't the best coach available but will help unite the 2 factions.
The Bo faction isn't thrilled but are ok with the hire.
The Carr faction is giggling like school girls because they are about to get exactly what they want; which is Brady Hoke & more importantly control of the Michigan fooball program.
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:37 am to RedGreene
quote:
David Brandon never planned to hire Miles. Never. After Jim Harbaugh turned him down his man has always been Brady Hoke.
Then what was the point of even talking to Miles, flying to Baton Rouge, etc.
quote:
The Carr faction is giggling like school girls because they are about to get exactly what they want; which is Brady Hoke & more importantly control of the Michigan fooball program.
Lloyd Carr is proving to be the worst thing to ever happen to Michigan football.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:39 am to RedGreene
So Brandon flew down to NOT offer Les? ok
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:40 am to RedGreene
Some people are rather ignorant on the subject.
"Talking" to Miles does nothing for us. Perception is everything, and right now our image is tarnished after this past decade.
You NEVER go to BR unless it is to sign a contract. By doing this, and then falling back to Hoke, it will slam our image futher.
If we didnt get Les, I can live with that. Not happy, but have to go on.
I cant live with the MSC's regimes treatment of the Michigan FB image. Mediocrity in the eyes of others is fine with them.
We needed a lights out hire, no matter the cost. What we dont need is an uninspired choice. If Brady had never coached for us, there is no way he sniffs the HC job.
Dave better pull a rabbit out of his arse, or else some folks need to lose their job. The Michigan HC job should be bigger than pleasing factions. Get the best person for the job...period.
"Talking" to Miles does nothing for us. Perception is everything, and right now our image is tarnished after this past decade.
You NEVER go to BR unless it is to sign a contract. By doing this, and then falling back to Hoke, it will slam our image futher.
If we didnt get Les, I can live with that. Not happy, but have to go on.
I cant live with the MSC's regimes treatment of the Michigan FB image. Mediocrity in the eyes of others is fine with them.
We needed a lights out hire, no matter the cost. What we dont need is an uninspired choice. If Brady had never coached for us, there is no way he sniffs the HC job.
Dave better pull a rabbit out of his arse, or else some folks need to lose their job. The Michigan HC job should be bigger than pleasing factions. Get the best person for the job...period.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:41 am to RedGreene
This will not unite the factions...not even a little bit. RR should have been kept one more year if we are seriously about to hire Brady flippin Hoke.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:43 am to RedGreene
I would say there is a third faction - the ones who care little about the other two and just want Michigan to return to its winning ways.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:46 am to RedGreene
WTF is up with all these factions. This doesnt even make sense. One is dead, the other long retired. I don't get it.
This post was edited on 1/11/11 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:47 am to RedGreene
have mich boards reported Miles is staying at LSU yet?
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:48 am to RedGreene
These factions remind me of Micky Ward's family in The Fighter
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:51 am to RedGreene
quote:Then what the hell is he waiting for?
David Brandon never planned to hire Miles. Never. After Jim Harbaugh turned him down his man has always been Brady Hoke.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 11:57 am to RedGreene
So, you're saying Brandon was just in Baton Rouge for the crawfish?
Posted on 1/11/11 at 12:43 pm to RedGreene
I understand Michigan is rich in history and tradition, but why does the next coach have to have a "Michigan" connection?
Posted on 1/11/11 at 2:10 pm to RedGreene
RedGreen, can you help me understand the hatred Lloyd Carr has for Les Miles? I'm sure it has been discussed somewhere but I just haven't heard.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 2:58 pm to RedGreene
quote:
David Brandon never planned to hire Miles. Never. After Jim Harbaugh turned him down his man has always been Brady Hoke.
whatever helps you sleep at night 
Posted on 1/11/11 at 3:24 pm to RedGreene
quote:Nothing personal, but your school is completely screwed right now. Too many factions, and way too many chefs. I feel bad for y'all.
The Carr faction is giggling like school girls because they are about to get exactly what they want; which is Brady Hoke & more importantly control of the Michigan fooball program.
until UM can just hire a coach and stay out of his way, you're playing second fiddle to tOSU at best. There's NO excuse to have fallen behind MSU.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 3:43 pm to RedGreene
Though it might be true, that story is pathetic and sad. Until that nonsense is purged from your program you will suck donkey balls.
It's like a nuclear powered good ole boy network.
It's like a nuclear powered good ole boy network.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 4:06 pm to RedGreene
You never know how a hire will turn out. Could be Hoke turns things around there. Heck, I don't remember Chizik being a big name hire and he's hoistng a crystal ball. Even Saban and Miles were underwhelming hires to some when they were hired and they both seem to have worked out pretty good.
I do agree that the whole Carr thing is bizzare though. Of all the stuff that has been said about him in the last two Michigan hires it seems like he has other agendas than getting the best coach to turn the program around.
I do agree that the whole Carr thing is bizzare though. Of all the stuff that has been said about him in the last two Michigan hires it seems like he has other agendas than getting the best coach to turn the program around.
Posted on 1/11/11 at 4:31 pm to RedGreene
quote:
David Brandon never planned to hire Miles. Never. After Jim Harbaugh turned him down his man has always been Brady Hoke.
1.Explain the time delay please.
2.Are you a subscriber to the DFP?
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