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Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:39 pm to BT
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If you want to sit here and try to sell this theory that if it wasnt for GC that JJ would be some sort of all conf qb
Never said all-conference.
I think he and Lee would be serviceable and our offense would be much improved without Crowton.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:40 pm to TheDoc
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Yet he still starts JJ every game
Maybe we should start T-Bob
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:42 pm to Rocket
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What is your prediction for Mettenberger at LSU? Will he make it rain on our hapless SEC opponents?
Maybe?
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:43 pm to Antonio Moss
AMOSS, look...
we could fire GC tommorrow, bring in a offensive corr that 99.9% of LSU people would approve of and IMO our offense next season doenst improve that much.
Thats just how I feel about it.
JJ has started and played in over 30 div 1 football games.
You could argue he isnt a notch better today than he was then, what you have seen from him is what he is.
If any one here finds that stupid, or ill logical, or off based, then I dont know what to tell you.
we could fire GC tommorrow, bring in a offensive corr that 99.9% of LSU people would approve of and IMO our offense next season doenst improve that much.
Thats just how I feel about it.
JJ has started and played in over 30 div 1 football games.
You could argue he isnt a notch better today than he was then, what you have seen from him is what he is.
If any one here finds that stupid, or ill logical, or off based, then I dont know what to tell you.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:44 pm to Hitchcock
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Maybe?
Excellent prognostication
I enjoyed North by Northwest by the way, Hitchcock.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:44 pm to Antonio Moss
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Ya, 2007 wasn't Gary Crowton's offense.
But keep fighting the good fight.
Ya, an Miles won with Saban's player too. Ricky Jean-Francois laughing his arse off at yo dumbass.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:45 pm to TheDoc
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Yet he still starts JJ every game
How do you keep defending him again?
can you not read?... ive answered this twice.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:46 pm to Rocket
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I enjoyed North by Northwest by the way, Hitchcock.
It was pretty damn.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:48 pm to BT
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we could fire GC tommorrow, bring in a offensive corr that 99.9% of LSU people would approve of and IMO our offense next season doenst improve that much.
This is what I disagree with.
Without Crowton, I think we are at least a Top 60 offense next year.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:50 pm to Antonio Moss
lets just agree to disagree.
qb is the most important posoiton on the offensive side of the ball and at LSU thats the weak link.
qb is the most important posoiton on the offensive side of the ball and at LSU thats the weak link.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:52 pm to BT
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qb is the most important posoiton on the offensive side of the ball and at LSU thats the weak link.
lets just agree to disagree.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:52 pm to BT
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Im willing to say both are partially to blame, problem is player is the one you depend on to execute the plays and gameplan.
Well, going beyond the fact that a player can only execute as well as he is taught to execute...
There are some glaring issues with the offense that have little to nothing to do with execution.
1) There's no identity
Are we spread? Are we I-Form? Are we zone blocking? Are we power running?
Being multiple can be effective, but most teams that run a multiple offense effectively really run the same plays, just out of different formations. We don't do that... at all.
Our best successes on the ground this year came from zone running... and we didn't hardly use that as a hallmark.
2) We don't play to player's strengths
Sending Shep deep just because he's fast isn't smart. I understand the concept of using him to open up underneath routes (taking the top off the defense as Randy Moss would say), but trying to make him a deep threat at this point is futile. He's still developing as a WR... and that's a tough skill.
Using a toss sweep with Ridley is simply confounding. Doing it three times in the red zone against Arkansas is even more perplexing. I love Ridley... he's a fantastic back... but stretching a play wide is not his forte.
3) Very little rhyme or reason/consistency to gameplans
You develop a game plan for a purpose. Obviously the ultimate goal is scoring points, but you try to accomplish other things to make that possible as well. We rarely set up plays with other plays. We often turn away from what is working best.... for the sake of "being multiple."
These are just a few of the issues that extend up to Crowton and have very little to do with player execution (which is something he shouldn't be excused for either IMO).
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:53 pm to Antonio Moss
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Antonio Moss
Antonio do you know where GC's salary ranks among other OC's?
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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Antonio do you know where GC's salary ranks among other OC's?
Highest in the SEC. It's up there nationally, not sure of the exact number.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:55 pm to OBUDan
Its hard to develop an identity, play to your players strenghts and find rythym when you go 3 and out 70% of the time.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:56 pm to OBUDan
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Well, going beyond the fact that a player can only execute as well as he is taught to execute...
There are some glaring issues with the offense that have little to nothing to do with execution.
1) There's no identity
Are we spread? Are we I-Form? Are we zone blocking? Are we power running?
Being multiple can be effective, but most teams that run a multiple offense effectively really run the same plays, just out of different formations. We don't do that... at all.
Our best successes on the ground this year came from zone running... and we didn't hardly use that as a hallmark.
2) We don't play to player's strengths
Sending Shep deep just because he's fast isn't smart. I understand the concept of using him to open up underneath routes (taking the top off the defense as Randy Moss would say), but trying to make him a deep threat at this point is futile. He's still developing as a WR... and that's a tough skill.
Using a toss sweep with Ridley is simply confounding. Doing it three times in the red zone against Arkansas is even more perplexing. I love Ridley... he's a fantastic back... but stretching a play wide is not his forte.
3) Very little rhyme or reason/consistency to gameplans
You develop a game plan for a purpose. Obviously the ultimate goal is scoring points, but you try to accomplish other things to make that possible as well. We rarely set up plays with other plays. We often turn away from what is working best.... for the sake of "being multiple."
These are just a few of the issues that extend up to Crowton and have very little to do with player execution (which is something he shouldn't be excused for either IMO).
+10000000000
Posted on 12/29/10 at 4:59 pm to OBUDan
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Are we spread? Are we I-Form? Are we zone blocking? Are we power running?
Does it matter? Does everything need a label?
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These are just a few of the issues that extend up to Crowton and have very little to do with player execution (which is something he shouldn't be excused for either IMO).
Gary Crowton..he's the guy that's had 3 different 1,000 yards rushers at LSU right? You missed that "Problem".
Posted on 12/29/10 at 5:00 pm to Springlake Tiger
Springlake, you dont know your boyfriends arse from a hole in the wall. Stupid post again
Posted on 12/29/10 at 5:00 pm to Hitchcock
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Gary Crowton..he's the guy that's had 3 different 1,000 yards rushers at LSU right? You missed that "Problem".
with one of the worst passing attacks in the nation.
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