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Teach a man to Fish (Fark Board Beginner Questions)
Posted on 12/13/10 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 12/13/10 at 12:52 pm
Ladies and Gents of the Fark board,
The Fark board is a unique place on this message board and the internet in general. It gives artists a place to post their creations. Board contributors might create jokes that a requestor did not anticipate. However, if the poster is good-natured (and the request is possible and not too labor-intensive), one of the talented artists will generally grant their request.
People have claimed that this particular board has some of the best image-manipulation posters on the web. Fellow Farkers, let's try to help others learn the process and increase the list of regular, quality contributors.
All of us who edit photographs and create digital art started somewhere.
This thread is designed as a place where the experienced members of the Fark board can help beginners with FAQ's.
Getting started:
The prospective artist will need software.
most individuals here use Photoshop, Corel Paint, GIMP or Paint.net. Some people even use Microsoft Paint.
Photoshop is generally considered the gold standard. It is very powerful however, it is expensive.
GIMP is freeware. It can be dowloaded here:
GIMP Download
It is has a lot of capacity as well and best yet, it's free. It can be difficult to learn.
Paint.net is another option. It can be downloaded here:
Paint.net Download
It is also free and quite intuitive. However, it lacks some of the capabilities of the previous programs. There are additional free plug-ins that add functionality.
Microsoft Paint is already on most computers with Windows. It is widespread but very, very basic. Still, some can create incredible drawings with practice and patience.
If anyone has a question about how to create a specific effect, feel free to post here. Also posters can link tutorials that are especially helpful.
Remember, image manipulation is a skill. Practice will really improve anyone's ability. New digital artist, good luck!
The Fark board is a unique place on this message board and the internet in general. It gives artists a place to post their creations. Board contributors might create jokes that a requestor did not anticipate. However, if the poster is good-natured (and the request is possible and not too labor-intensive), one of the talented artists will generally grant their request.
People have claimed that this particular board has some of the best image-manipulation posters on the web. Fellow Farkers, let's try to help others learn the process and increase the list of regular, quality contributors.
All of us who edit photographs and create digital art started somewhere.
This thread is designed as a place where the experienced members of the Fark board can help beginners with FAQ's.
Getting started:
The prospective artist will need software.
most individuals here use Photoshop, Corel Paint, GIMP or Paint.net. Some people even use Microsoft Paint.
Photoshop is generally considered the gold standard. It is very powerful however, it is expensive.
GIMP is freeware. It can be dowloaded here:
GIMP Download
It is has a lot of capacity as well and best yet, it's free. It can be difficult to learn.
Paint.net is another option. It can be downloaded here:
Paint.net Download
It is also free and quite intuitive. However, it lacks some of the capabilities of the previous programs. There are additional free plug-ins that add functionality.
Microsoft Paint is already on most computers with Windows. It is widespread but very, very basic. Still, some can create incredible drawings with practice and patience.
If anyone has a question about how to create a specific effect, feel free to post here. Also posters can link tutorials that are especially helpful.
Remember, image manipulation is a skill. Practice will really improve anyone's ability. New digital artist, good luck!
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Posted on 12/13/10 at 1:06 pm to timdallinger
Signature Pics and Avatars
Sig pics are a great place to start. The TD legend, Stout, created a location for people to make their requests on the Help board.
Sig Pic Requests
Some individuals who like to change their sigs often might be better suited to learn how to make them themselves. Also, as the format is small, it is quite forgiving of mistakes. It's a great place to practice important techniques. When I began digital editing, I looked through the entire thread to see what was possible. It also gives you an appreciation for individual artists' style.
Sig and Avatar requirements from the TigerDroppings FAQ board:
Images should be approximately 30 Kbytes in size. Anything larger than that causes threads to load up slowly. Avatars should be no more than 150 pixels in height and 150 pixels in width. Signature images should be no more than 150 pixels in height and 400 pixels in width. To view an image's pixel size, right-click on the images and go to Properties. The dimensions are shown as width by height. Animated .gifs may be removed as well.
Let's begin.
Start a new design in your image editting software of choice. Be sure to note the size requirements. The final product can be no larger than 400 pixels wide by 150 high. This area is quite small with which to work. For sigs, I usually start with a 800x300 size (and resize by 50% when I am finished) so I have plenty of workspace.
Begin your creation. Use different tools to create your desired effect. Layers are a very important concept to learn. It is exactly how it sounds; different "layers" within an image. So you can edit one layer without affecting the rest of the image. Be sure to save the document in the required format to maintain these layers.
When you are finished creating, you need to save (or print) your image to JPEG or PNG format. This will flatten your layers and you will no longer be able to edit them individually. So be sure to save another copy in a format that can be edited or know that you are completely done.
Be sure that the file size is lower than 30k or it will likely be removed. You will lose some resolution by going with a smaller file size but it is the requirements.
Sig pics are a great place to start. The TD legend, Stout, created a location for people to make their requests on the Help board.
Sig Pic Requests
Some individuals who like to change their sigs often might be better suited to learn how to make them themselves. Also, as the format is small, it is quite forgiving of mistakes. It's a great place to practice important techniques. When I began digital editing, I looked through the entire thread to see what was possible. It also gives you an appreciation for individual artists' style.
Sig and Avatar requirements from the TigerDroppings FAQ board:
Images should be approximately 30 Kbytes in size. Anything larger than that causes threads to load up slowly. Avatars should be no more than 150 pixels in height and 150 pixels in width. Signature images should be no more than 150 pixels in height and 400 pixels in width. To view an image's pixel size, right-click on the images and go to Properties. The dimensions are shown as width by height. Animated .gifs may be removed as well.
Let's begin.
Start a new design in your image editting software of choice. Be sure to note the size requirements. The final product can be no larger than 400 pixels wide by 150 high. This area is quite small with which to work. For sigs, I usually start with a 800x300 size (and resize by 50% when I am finished) so I have plenty of workspace.
Begin your creation. Use different tools to create your desired effect. Layers are a very important concept to learn. It is exactly how it sounds; different "layers" within an image. So you can edit one layer without affecting the rest of the image. Be sure to save the document in the required format to maintain these layers.
When you are finished creating, you need to save (or print) your image to JPEG or PNG format. This will flatten your layers and you will no longer be able to edit them individually. So be sure to save another copy in a format that can be edited or know that you are completely done.
Be sure that the file size is lower than 30k or it will likely be removed. You will lose some resolution by going with a smaller file size but it is the requirements.
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/13/10 at 9:03 pm to timdallinger
Fark it, I'm in. I've been meaning to do this for a while, just never got around to it. GIMP is downloaded and I have nothing at work to do in the forseeable future.
I have a bit of experience with Photoshop... So we'll see how this goes!
I have a bit of experience with Photoshop... So we'll see how this goes!
This post was edited on 12/13/10 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 12/13/10 at 10:37 pm to timdallinger
Sticky please!
(I do not have the time to meet vtdad's deadline.)
(I do not have the time to meet vtdad's deadline.)
Posted on 12/15/10 at 11:34 pm to timdallinger
ok, I just started after downloading everything about an hour ago. I used a source pic off of some aggie thread and found a pic of buffalo bob off the
'net.
I had a real hard time with the layers and I'm pretty pissed at myself. It took me a good 20 minutes to get this simple thing done. I'm not happy! How can I fill in the blank areas that are very obvious and how can I "clean it up" to make it better?
I could sit here for another 12 hours or I can ask the gurus for advice. Please help!
'net.
I had a real hard time with the layers and I'm pretty pissed at myself. It took me a good 20 minutes to get this simple thing done. I'm not happy! How can I fill in the blank areas that are very obvious and how can I "clean it up" to make it better?
I could sit here for another 12 hours or I can ask the gurus for advice. Please help!
Posted on 12/16/10 at 9:21 am to timdallinger
Renders
Renders are images cut from their original background. Masking images (creating these renders) can be a very time-consuming process depending on the complexity of the image.
You can save yourself some time if you search for a render first. There isn't a large bank of college player renders but there are a ton of professional athletes.
One of the best sources is a Photobucket user named Friartown
Friartown's Renders
This graphic artist does flawless work.
Notice these files are saved as PNG files. Remember earlier, said to be sure to save your cut images as PNG's. While PNG's are larger files, they have the capability of saving transparent pixels. JPEG's do not. A JPEG will convert those transparent pixels to white.
To use one these images, download the PNG file to your computer. Open the file in your software of choice. It should have the transparent background and you can paste it onto another image.
To summarize, before you cut-out a popular player (or celebrity) check to see if someone has already done it. It can save quite a bit of time.
Renders are images cut from their original background. Masking images (creating these renders) can be a very time-consuming process depending on the complexity of the image.
You can save yourself some time if you search for a render first. There isn't a large bank of college player renders but there are a ton of professional athletes.
One of the best sources is a Photobucket user named Friartown
Friartown's Renders
This graphic artist does flawless work.
Notice these files are saved as PNG files. Remember earlier, said to be sure to save your cut images as PNG's. While PNG's are larger files, they have the capability of saving transparent pixels. JPEG's do not. A JPEG will convert those transparent pixels to white.
To use one these images, download the PNG file to your computer. Open the file in your software of choice. It should have the transparent background and you can paste it onto another image.
To summarize, before you cut-out a popular player (or celebrity) check to see if someone has already done it. It can save quite a bit of time.
This post was edited on 12/16/10 at 9:25 am
Posted on 12/31/10 at 6:59 am to timdallinger
I have PS and Imageready, comfortable in PS and have tried to get into gif creation/manipulation.
First:
In IR, how do you add text to his certain frames? I tried to do what I imagined would work, by putting a text layer above the layers I wanted, but after that, because layers sequentially go up, anything placed above that will be included in any layer below it.
Basically, to have a 50-60 frame gif, with text in the first 20... A break and then text in the last 10-15, how would I go about doing that? Essentially, editing a specific frame? (and then going frame by frame and adding (via copy/paste))
I'm familiar with the terminology, so if anyone could give me a quick rundown on how to accomplish this, that'd be amazing.
TIA and Tim, great idea for a thread.
I'll hang up and listen now.
First:
In IR, how do you add text to his certain frames? I tried to do what I imagined would work, by putting a text layer above the layers I wanted, but after that, because layers sequentially go up, anything placed above that will be included in any layer below it.
Basically, to have a 50-60 frame gif, with text in the first 20... A break and then text in the last 10-15, how would I go about doing that? Essentially, editing a specific frame? (and then going frame by frame and adding (via copy/paste))
I'm familiar with the terminology, so if anyone could give me a quick rundown on how to accomplish this, that'd be amazing.
TIA and Tim, great idea for a thread.
I'll hang up and listen now.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 1:54 pm to timdallinger
I observe that my MAC has Gimp 2.6.8 loaded.
I observe that the most current version is apparently 2.6.11.
Please guide me whether the release 2.6.8 is an ok release to use for TD purposes or if not, which releases are least buggy.
Is it highly recommended to use the most current version or can I use the 2.6.8 without conflicts on TD?
I am an utter beginner on this software.
I HAVE YET TO USE IT AT ALL.
RSVP. tia Otto
I observe that the most current version is apparently 2.6.11.
Please guide me whether the release 2.6.8 is an ok release to use for TD purposes or if not, which releases are least buggy.
Is it highly recommended to use the most current version or can I use the 2.6.8 without conflicts on TD?
I am an utter beginner on this software.
I HAVE YET TO USE IT AT ALL.
RSVP. tia Otto
Posted on 3/11/11 at 10:13 am to timdallinger
I'm using Photoshop 7.0 (an old version... hey it was free) and I'm wondering if there's another free program out there that will allow to rotate on the z-axis.
For instance, if a person is looking straight ahead but I want his face looking up, after I cut out the face, how do I rotate it a bit to make him look up?
Can this be done?
Thanks!
For instance, if a person is looking straight ahead but I want his face looking up, after I cut out the face, how do I rotate it a bit to make him look up?
Can this be done?
Thanks!
Posted on 5/8/11 at 9:54 pm to timdallinger
I have not posted any of my work yet, but, like the opinion expressed by many others on here, this forum has had a huge impact on me. Really just wanted to post to say thanks to all of you for the help. I conisder myself a good photographer, and so my subject matter has always been my prime interest, photo editing really didn't interest me at all until I accidentally opened this forum when checking the Rant one day. I chose paint.net based on the information on here, and it has really opened a whole new world of creativity. At any rate, thanks!
Posted on 5/18/11 at 2:40 pm to timdallinger
What is the best software (preferable free). Is Gimp legit? I've been using gimp and I like it but I don't want to miss out on any major features. What is Gimp lacking that others have?
Posted on 6/7/11 at 5:57 pm to timdallinger
This is my first attempt. Any suggestions on how to clean it up or make it better? Using PS 8.
Posted on 6/9/11 at 10:09 am to timdallinger
Hey Tim, I sent you something YGM
Posted on 9/1/11 at 1:53 pm to timdallinger
nvm
This post was edited on 9/2/11 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/10/11 at 11:12 pm to timdallinger
Decided to give it a try and created this sig. It's my first "fark" so be gentle boys.
Posted on 10/20/11 at 10:27 am to timdallinger
Made my first gif - posting here to see if it works before adding it to the thread.....
Didn't work. What is a good free hosting site for animated gifs?
Nevermind, saw HooDoo's earlier post, Thanks! This thread is the best - definitely feeding my addiction!
Didn't work. What is a good free hosting site for animated gifs?
Nevermind, saw HooDoo's earlier post, Thanks! This thread is the best - definitely feeding my addiction!
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 11:49 am
Posted on 10/21/11 at 3:27 pm to timdallinger
I'd like to start learning how to start photoshopping soon. I'm moving away soon and probably will have a lot of time on my hands being that I know very few people where I'm going. I'll start reading up on these pages to catch up on what's already here when I'm ready. I was wonder is there a good free or cheap app to play around with in the meantime? Look forward to contributing one day.
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