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Which of these past SEC coaches were mediocre?
Posted on 10/29/10 at 7:24 am
Posted on 10/29/10 at 7:24 am
I was searching for some different analogues for Mile's past, present and potential future at LSU beyond the oft cited examples of Solich (by pro Miles people) and Coker (by anti Miles people). I was thinking along the lines of Fulmer and Tubby.
I started looking and got kind of carried away by the cross linking in Wikipedia. A lot of SEC coaches through the years would seem to fit the definitions of mediocre (or non elite) that are used by some.
Which of these do ya'll think were mediocre:
Vince Dooley
Phil Fulmer
Tommy Tubberville
Robert Neyland
John Vaught
Gene Stallings
Bear Bryant
I started looking and got kind of carried away by the cross linking in Wikipedia. A lot of SEC coaches through the years would seem to fit the definitions of mediocre (or non elite) that are used by some.
Which of these do ya'll think were mediocre:
Vince Dooley
Phil Fulmer
Tommy Tubberville
Robert Neyland
John Vaught
Gene Stallings
Bear Bryant
Posted on 10/29/10 at 7:36 am to Methuselah
Why is Bear Bryant on your list of choices? I hated the old fart but come on. Most of those guys had their ups and downs. Dooley would be my one choice from that list I guess.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 7:45 am to Methuselah
They should have fired Vince in his sixth year. The program was trending downward, 5-5-1? Jesus Christ Georgia was horrible.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 7:50 am to Methuselah
I truly believe that TT was pretty damned mediocre. I know I'm on the outs with the rest of the rant on this one...but I feel that the guy was horrible. Sure he got screwed in 08...but he had some very talented teams that he scratched out pretty average seasons with...while Bammer was DOWN.
He took unnecessary risks...his game planning was less than stellar. Dude could recruit, though.
He took unnecessary risks...his game planning was less than stellar. Dude could recruit, though.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 7:53 am to Methuselah
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Posted on 10/29/10 at 8:18 am to Methuselah
Robert Neyland and Bryant shoul not have been typed. i was suprised at how mediocre Dooley's record was. I remember him being better.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 8:19 am to Methuselah
Easily, it's Tuberville. Totally mediocre.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 9:10 am to Methuselah
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A lot of SEC coaches through the years would seem to fit the definitions of mediocre (or non elite) that are used by some.
Why is it that Miles defenders NEVER EVER talk about actual gameplay, coaching decisions, player development, etc. and ALWAYS go to the overall record?
Because you can't defend Miles based on the way the team actually plays on the field. You can only do it by pointing at the record.
Well guess what. You can't win them all, and, over the last 3 years, Miles hasn't been winning very many that weren't gimmes. Coaches can't always be held responsible for whether their team wins or loses a particular game. We all know that the Auburn game itself is not a damning indictment of Miles and wouldn't have been a shining endorsement of him had we won. It's the cumulative way the team performs. It's the process.
Is Coach Miles a great coach, and is he worth the very large sums of money we pay him? Is he as good as Bear Bryant was?
Those questions can't be answered just by comparing overall records. That's a foolish and shallow way of answering the question. That's how we are in the "huge buyout" mess we are in today.
Posted on 10/29/10 at 1:44 pm to Methuselah
It's hard to defend Mile's, he makes games close games seem closer than they need to be, and it is easy to be against the Coach for the same reason.
However, lately I have been hearing a lot of "Coach Mile's record- so what? He only wins the 'gimme' games." Last time I checked, we are in the NCAA, college football,and I'd like those who are against Miles to go back and look at the "gimme" games we have won. Point is,there aren't a lot of "gimme" games in college football, especially when you play in the SEC.
However, lately I have been hearing a lot of "Coach Mile's record- so what? He only wins the 'gimme' games." Last time I checked, we are in the NCAA, college football,and I'd like those who are against Miles to go back and look at the "gimme" games we have won. Point is,there aren't a lot of "gimme" games in college football, especially when you play in the SEC.
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