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Those who were truly concerned after
Posted on 10/15/10 at 11:38 am
Posted on 10/15/10 at 11:38 am
the UNC, Tennessee and Florida games probably still are. Those games should have been put away long before the last play(s) of the game.
Those who see the talent that this LSU team has are still concerned that it is not being used to its potential - a potential that will be required to continue winning.
This team can not rely on Les' luck if it expects to beat Auburn, Alabama and Arkansas.
I appreciate what Les has done while at LSU, but I worry that continued close play will lead to a loss that shouldn't have been.
Those who see the talent that this LSU team has are still concerned that it is not being used to its potential - a potential that will be required to continue winning.
This team can not rely on Les' luck if it expects to beat Auburn, Alabama and Arkansas.
I appreciate what Les has done while at LSU, but I worry that continued close play will lead to a loss that shouldn't have been.
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Posted on 10/15/10 at 11:47 am to ksliman
We have finally started to show improvement. The QB play has improved and that has always been the problem. We will put it all together very soon. I've been saying it will be when Bama comes to Tiger Stadium. We can beat Auburn with the play we had at the Swamp. Their defense is average at best and UK showed everyone how to defend against Auburn by holding them to 6 points in the 2nd half.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 11:59 am to PeaRidgeWatash
with the way the defense played the florida game, it felt like we should have won by at least two scores. its starting to sound like a broken record. takeaway their two td drives that were under 25 yards and the kickoff return for a td and this game is a blowout. 
hopefully we make no mistakes this game and keep things rolling into the Auburn game. keep the faith in this team.
hopefully we make no mistakes this game and keep things rolling into the Auburn game. keep the faith in this team.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:01 pm to ksliman
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This team can not rely on Les' luck if it expects to beat Auburn, Alabama and Arkansas.
Did Les' "luck" have anything to do with PP muffed punt or the punt return for a TD against UF?
There's nothing lucky about winning nearly 80% of your games.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:04 pm to Choctaw
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Did Les' "luck" have anything to do with PP muffed punt or the punt return for a TD against UF?
No, but those are the mental errors that (unfortuantely) have become routine on Les Miles' LSU teams.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:07 pm to ksliman
I was very concerned until that last drive of the TN game. Watching Lee play put me at ease. The kid has grown up.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:11 pm to The312
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No, but those are the mental errors that (unfortuantely) have become routine on Les Miles' LSU teams.
fumbles and kick returns happen to the best players and best teams nearly every weekend and it usually has nothing to do with the coach.
This post was edited on 10/15/10 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:13 pm to Choctaw
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fumbles and kick returns happen to the best players and best teams nearly every weekend and it has nothing to do with the coach.
You quite obviously don't know a lot about football. And that's fine, you can still be a fan. But on Saturday, we allowed a kickoff return because our lane assigments were absolutely crap. We blew a lane assigment. It was mental error. That has everything to do with coaching.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:14 pm to ksliman
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the UNC, Tennessee and Florida games probably still are. Those games should have been put away long before the last play(s) of the game.
This team can not rely on Les' luck if it expects to beat Auburn, Alabama and Arkansas.
Luck is winning a game the way Alabama did a year ago, PP gets a cramp, horrible call etc.
The first three games mentioned certainly were closer than need be but the Tigers outplayed them all, primarily letting the game tighten up due to turnovers. In that light, the three opponents were lucky to recieve the turnover gifts to allow them to stay close. Yes, it was a bit of good fortune against UT but LSU physically dominated against the Vols which is why a turnover/mistake induced loss would have been so hard to swallow.
Eliminate the turnovers and silly penalties and there will be no need to worry about last-minute game management because LSU is more talented than 5 of their six remaining opponents. I say 'Bama is even-up talent-wise but I like the Tigers in that one playing at home.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:14 pm to The312
Yeah, because PP fumbling a punt is MOST DEFINITELY mile's fault for not teaching focus. You guys are just too much. I have a feeling that IF we were to go undefeated and win the title, ya'll would STILL be bitching about Miles.
You guys are just too much. I have a feeling that IF we were to go undefeated and win the title, ya'll would STILL be bitching about Miles.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:14 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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I was very concerned until that last drive of the TN game. Watching Lee play put me at ease. The kid has grown up.
This is a very good point. JL now has two stellar drives. CLM learned from UT to let JL finish it. This has to give the team major confidence in the ability to make a comeback if needed.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:18 pm to The312
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we allowed a kickoff return because our lane assigments were absolutely crap. We blew a lane assigment. It was mental error. That has everything to do with coaching.
It wasn't a lane breakdown. The kick was short. The coverage team didn't have time to get down field and the blockers didn't have to wait very long to open up the lanes for the return man. Had the ball been deep, he may have gotten it past the 20. That's it.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:21 pm to The312
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You quite obviously don't know a lot about football. And that's fine, you can still be a fan. But on Saturday, we allowed a kickoff return because our lane assigments were absolutely crap. We blew a lane assigment. It was mental error. That has everything to do with coaching.
How many punts have been returned for TDs the last 6 years?....not many. If it happens repeatedly than its a coaching problem...if it happens once then a player fricked up his lane assignment (which isn't actually what happened) But you go ahead and keep blaming everything on Miles....i understand...its what you do.
Jesus....and Im the one that doesn't know alot about football.
This post was edited on 10/15/10 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:23 pm to DeafJam73
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It wasn't a lane breakdown. The kick was short. The coverage team didn't have time to get down field and the blockers didn't have to wait very long to open up the lanes for the return man. Had the ball been deep, he may have gotten it past the 20. That's it.
I'm gonna have to disagree. It looks to me like the two outside lanes (L1 L2) ran the wrong coverage paths.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:24 pm to DeafJam73
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It wasn't a lane breakdown. The kick was short. The coverage team didn't have time to get down field and the blockers didn't have to wait very long to open up the lanes for the return man. Had the ball been deep, he may have gotten it past the 20. That's it.
That's exactly right. Wasn't there a penalty against us during the extra point we had just converted and it was accessed on the kick-off?
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:28 pm to The312
quote:remember when xavier lee knelt it at the one? Or early muffing punts against uf? How bout a bluegrass miricale to beat kentucky or losing to troy and.... you get the idea.
No, but those are the mental errors that (unfortuantely) have become routine on Les Miles' LSU teams.
No coach is perfect
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:33 pm to Choctaw
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How many punts have been returned for TDs the last 6 years?....not many. If it happens repeatedly than its a coaching problem...if it happens once then a player fricked up his lane assignment (which isn't actually what happened) But you go ahead and keep blaming everything on Miles....i understand...its what you do.
First of all, yes, there was a lane breakdown.
Second of all, you reactionary sycophant, there IS INDEED a pattern: repeated mental errors by the players and staff. This pattern has manifested itself clearly over the last three seasons. Do you know how many mental errors we committed in Saturday's game alone:
JJ's INT. Poor read.
Poor lane assigments on the kick return.
Muffed punt.
Needless roughing the QB penalty that extended a UF drive that would have been stuffed.
Needless holding that negated a Ridley first down run.
Defensive holding that gave UF a second FG attempt.
Needless PI on a pass that was flying fifteen yards out of the EZ to give Florida first and goal ( a bad call, IMO, but there was no need for the contact if Eugene gets his head around and sees the ball)
Shall I include the fricking Tennessee game two weeks ago:
TWO INT's by JJ, one so errant you couldn't tell where it was being thrown.
DPeterson's lack of ball security.
INT by Lee in the EZ
Penalties too numerous to even recount
Mass confusion as the clock ran down.
Shall I go back to the end of Penn State last season? Or Ole Miss?
Do you see the pattern: a constant stream of mistakes that transform blowouts in close games and wins into losses.
No one has less credibility than you on this entire board because you simply CANNOT admit, you are constitutionally incapable of admitting, that Miles makes errors.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:44 pm to ksliman
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This team can not rely on Les' luck if it expects to beat Auburn, Alabama and Arkansas.
LSU wins and it's luck, LSU loses Miles is a bad coach?
Gotcha.
Deep thinker aintcha?
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:50 pm to dreaux
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remember when xavier lee knelt it at the one? Or early muffing punts against uf? How bout a bluegrass miricale to beat kentucky or losing to troy and.... you get the idea.
No coach is perfect
I remember that... Wasn't it at Georgia?
All this continued criticism has gotten out of hand, IMO. Has Miles made mistakes? Of course, but like you said...no coach is perfect. From the way he handled his first season during Katrina(which he doesn't get enough credit), to the way he has continued recuiting at a ridiculously high level and to how insanely huge his balls are... you gotta give it up to Miles. What do people think we'd get with a new coach? A fanbase that isn't happy with a coach that averages 10 wins a season will never be happy. I was extremely frustrated during the first 5 games, but it is obvious to me that we are finally showing improvement on offense. While I agree Lee has given us the best chance to win so far, I agree that forcing our opponents to have to prepare for two QBs is the exact thing to do.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:50 pm to The312
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No, but those are the mental errors that (unfortuantely) have become routine on Les Miles' LSU teams
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You quite obviously don't know a lot about football. And that's fine, you can still be a fan. But on Saturday, we allowed a kickoff return because our lane assigments were absolutely crap. We blew a lane assigment. It was mental error. That has everything to do with coaching.
And quite obviously you don't know a lot about football either. But that's ok...you can still be a fan as well.
This brand of rhetoric is old and I grow weary of reading it. It appears that you, like some others here are willing to blame just about anything on Miles and will not be sated until he is either fired or has left of his own accord.
Kids are excited, try to do too much, and yes, sometimes they're out of position. So I guess we can attribute PP's muffed punt to Miles as well? OR maybe it's just a case of an exceptional athlete trying to do too much and had a mental error ON HIS PART!
You're unbelievable.
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