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Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:14 am to windriver
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No, no he can't. Do you watch the games?
The one pass he struggles with mightily is the screen pass. The rest he can make.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:17 am to windriver
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No, no he can't. Do you watch the games?
I do and he can.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:33 am to inthebr
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2008 ...30.9 points/game
2009....24.8 points/game
2008: 27 rushing TDs
2009: 15 rushing TDs
2008: 166ypg 4.4ypa rushing
2009: 122ypg 3.7ypa rushing
Wonder if that might have something to do with it?
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:36 am to Dead Fish
quote:you really are an idiot, the only conspiracy going on is in your damn head!
Yeah right, it's because there must be some sort of sinister coaching conspiracy to destroy his career!
and it's funny you being a loser callin someone a loser, especially with that avatar, how can people possibily take you serious?
This post was edited on 9/23/10 at 11:44 am
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:43 am to MightyYat
quote:If he had let's say played a lil more than that, maybe he would have been sharper, who knows? but one thing is for sure is you saw that he was much faster in his decision making, sharper also than a couple of years ago!
Surely he could have been better with a week to prepare against one of the worst defenses in the country with 6 starters out.
This post was edited on 9/23/10 at 11:48 am
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:47 am to Broham
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Well then put JL in
Not to make this a big thing, but Lee is the king of locking in on the primary receiver.
Jefferson checked down several times against State on Saturday.
Again, I know I sound like a broken record, but the problem is the retarded option route offense we run.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 11:49 am to Antonio Moss
you guys keep sayin Lee is the king of lockin in on receiver based on what he did his frosh year, and I say that is just plain ridiculous.
This post was edited on 9/23/10 at 11:50 am
Posted on 9/23/10 at 12:19 pm to mt1
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mt1
Who is that in the pic? I know Les is on the bus, but who is in the front?
Posted on 9/23/10 at 12:19 pm to Ray_G
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2008: 27 rushing TDs
2009: 15 rushing TDs
2008: 166ypg 4.4ypa rushing
2009: 122ypg 3.7ypa rushing
Wonder if that might have something to do with it?
Wonder if the fear of the forward pass might have something to do with that?
Posted on 9/23/10 at 12:28 pm to tubucoco
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you guys keep sayin Lee is the king of lockin in on receiver based on what he did his frosh year, and I say that is just plain ridiculous.
We'll I say it because when he has played, which is mostly his freshman year, he locked in on the primary receiver.
I really don't blame him because of his age and our ridiculous offense, but that doesn't make it any less true.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 12:59 pm to Choupique19
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JL, who is a gunslinger and someone with a lot of hero and big -play ability in him has a habit of throwing pick sixes.
These pick sixes cause us to LOSE.
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You're an idiot. JL kills you with the TOs.
Exactly how am I an idiot. You two are the ones saying that JL cost us games. You won 8 games in 2008 and 9 in 2009. Do I need to remind you have how much worse our defense was in 2008? If JJ was QB in 2008 no way to we even come close to 8 wins.
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But at the same time JJ was able to hit over 61 percent of his passes even with an offensive line that sucked while JL could only hit 40 percent of his passes and against weak opposition like La Tech.
It is alot easier to hit 61% of 10 to 12 passes than it is to hit 40% of 30 to 35 passes. (BTW, his completion percentage was actually 53% in 2008)
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I guess we aren't adding a -7 for each pick six?
JL threw 6 pick sixes in 2008. That's 42 points for the other team over the course of the year. But he put 6.1 points per game more on the board. That is 73.2 points more over the course of the year. So even with factoring in the pick sixes he is still good enough for 31.2 more points in our favor than is JJ.
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2008: 27 rushing TDs
2009: 15 rushing TDs
2008: 166ypg 4.4ypa rushing
2009: 122ypg 3.7ypa rushing
Wonder if that might have something to do with it?
Wonder if the fear of the forward pass might have something to do with that?
Exactly, the pass opens up the run. In 2009, opponets didn't have to worry about the pass so they loaded up the box to stop the run.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 2:07 pm to OBUDan
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All of the drives but one that sputtered into FGs in the 1st half weren't on JJ. The other was a slightly overthrown fade that still probably could have been caught.
Can you really call them drives when they start on Miss ST 46. I don't think so.
I have been down on JJ, I thought he threw the ball great this weekend, but as the OP stated, once the 1st reciever doesn't get open he takes off running, this is why he only has 97 yds passing and why he when 10 for 16..
I am not for JL starting, but do believe he should play a few meaning series a game for a few reasons,
1. to see if he has improved and progressed. If he has we would be dumb not to play him.
2. to get experience if JJ goes down. with JJ runing 13 times a game, he is bound to get hurt. I don't want to be 5-0 or 5-1 and we have to depend on JL coming in cold.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 2:54 pm to tubucoco
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you really are an idiot, the only conspiracy going on is in your damn head!
Really, then what is the reason JL is the backup and not the starter?
Posted on 9/23/10 at 2:57 pm to tubucoco
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If he had let's say played a lil more than that, maybe he would have been sharper, who knows? but one thing is for sure is you saw that he was much faster in his decision making, sharper also than a couple of years ago!
Sure he was. I never seen wide open receivers missed so badly.
Got anymore lame excuses?
Posted on 9/23/10 at 3:05 pm to tubucoco
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you guys keep sayin Lee is the king of lockin in on receiver based on what he did his frosh year, and I say that is just plain ridiculous.
Actually it was in his redshirt freshman year when he had far more experience than Jefferson. Nevertheless, you say it is plain ridiculous. Okay, then please provide evidence to support your ludicrous claims. I mean how do you know that? Post your evidence because wishful thinking or intuition don't count. Hell, a lot of you guys thought he had corrected his myriads of problems last season too, but when given the chance to redeem himself, he failed miserably. I mean other than a spring game that doesn't come close to replicating the speed and intensity of an actual SEC game and where there is no blitzing and the defenses are about as vanilla as it gets, what else do you have?
Posted on 9/23/10 at 3:23 pm to Chicot
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If JJ was QB in 2008 no way to we even come close to 8 wins.
Apparently you didn’t watch the Capital One Bowl against Georgia Tech when JJ made JL look like crap in comparison.
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It is alot easier to hit 61% of 10 to 12 passes than it is to hit 40% of 30 to 35 passes. (BTW, his completion percentage was actually 53% in 2008)
I’m talking about for the entire 2009 season stump jumper. JJ hit over 61 percent, while JL hit only a measly 40 percent. Hell he hit only for 31 percent of his passes against lowly La Tech. Indeed, in that game I never seen so many wide open receivers missed so badly.
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JL threw 6 pick sixes in 2008.
No, he threw a new NCAA record 7 pick sixes in 16 interceptions in only 8 starts in 2008. In other words, it just doesn’t get any stinkier than that because most coaches would have benched him long before it ever got to be that bad.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 3:56 pm to Dead Fish
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I do and he can.
Are you fricking 12? Jefferson can't hit water if he fell out a boat. He's a terrible passer, he can't hit a freaking screen pass.
Posted on 9/23/10 at 4:00 pm to Dead Fish
quote:haha, I'll tell you one thing, if Jefferson gets hurt we'll find out. If that kid comes in and starts throwin strikes you'll be the first one on the bandwagon.
Post your evidence because wishful thinking or intuition don't count.
You can't post evidence when you have a mule headed arse coach who will stick with a QB as long as LSU keeps winning no matter how ugly the WIN is!
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